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  Are JW's only in it for the New System?

  by In_between_days in

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  if the new world hope no longer existed, would everyone leave?

  would some stay?

  what do you think the reaction of the dubs would be if the new light was no armaggedon and no "new system"?

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  jack2

  Luke 10:25 (NWT): "Now, look! A certain man, versed in the Law, rose up, to test him out, and said, "Teacher, by doing what shall I inherit everlasting life?"

  Matthew 19:27 : "Then Peter said to him in reply: Look! We have left all things and followed you; what actually well there be for us?".

  Acts 16:30 : And he brought them outside and said "Sirs, what must I do to get saved?"

  I think these verses show that religious people have always been interested in the reward that they might receive, and it's not something only jws are concerned about.

  In regard to the original question, yes, I think many jws are in it mainly for the reward. I think that, as humans, we often are in whatever endeavor we involve ourselves in because we seek some remuneration. With regard to being a jw, there are so many sacrifices a person is expected to make, no wonder he/she expects something in return. Note Peter's question above - didn't he kind of 'expect' something in return? In a way, I guess it's selfish to want a reward, and yet, it seems part of the human experience, in some cases, at least to want one.

  I'm not necessarily defending the 'expectation' of a reward, but, it seems to me that the scriptures above indicate that humans seem to be interested in some reward form God, and whether that's entirely a selfish thing or not, I really don't know.

  Edited by - jack2 on 29 September 2002 0:1:13

  Edited by - jack2 on 29 September 2002 0:2:25
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  question on friendship

  by Vivamus in

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  someone just recently told me his opinion on friendship.

  and now i am wondering what your thoughts are.

  what defines friendship?.

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  Very good thread Viv and this one gets me thinking - and the comments have been good too.

  I think that for me, friendships exist with others to varying degrees - some are 'close' friends, some are 'good' friends (the two may be synonymous) then there are people I consider to be friends, but that I really don't do much with socially - yet I still veiw them as friends. And as Karen said, there are 'acquaintances' that we all have, and of course, the degree of closeness needed to make them a friend is just not quite there but there can be potential for a friendship in some cases, though often such people simply remain acquaintances for whatever reason.

  I have some very good 'online' friendships too. Is an online friend a friend of a different sort? Is the word "online" implying some sort of limit on the degree or extent of the friendship? I've thought about this a lot, and I don't really know the answer, but I have some people that I consider true friends that I have only met online, and I have spoken by phone with a couple of them and that helps solidify the friendship too. They've helped me a lot and have been there for me and I try to be there for them in whatever way I can. I've had a couple of such friendships that have lasted almost three years now, and are still growing and going strong. To me, they are true friendships, limited only by the distance between us physically. I have some newer online friendships too that have been very rewarding and enjoyable.

  Sometimes we create (perhaps out of some necessity) certain friendship categories, i.e, school friends, work friends, jw friends, online friends, etc. But to me, ultimately, a friend is a person who is trusting, caring, loyal, fun, and forgiving, among many other things.

  Edited by - jack2 on 27 September 2002 9:33:0
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  Hey, my husband posted!!

  by Mulan in

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  watch for posts by "bigred".

  we were talking about one of the threads today, and he said he would like to add a comment, so he registered and wrote a good one.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37429&page=2&site=3edited by - mulan on 26 september 2002 19:21:4.

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  Cool....hey, my wife looked at this site for the first time yesterday - it was strictly for laughs on the 'Awake covers you won't see thread' but hey, it's a start.
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  Why Dinosaurs Vanished

  by metatron in

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  why did dinosaurs vanish?.

  they were overweight.. http://frederic.malmartel.free.fr/fin_des_dinosaures/eedinosaures1.htm.

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  LDH, I totally buy into your theory!!

  It clearly explains why some species did survive the dino-demise of the late Cretaceous period (a/k/a the dino "time of the end" or "last days").
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  Totally happy in your marriage?

  by Lost Diamond in

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  how many of you are totally, incredibly happy in your marriage?

  how many of you feel that your spouse is your absolute soul mate and you couldn't even imagine your being married somebody else?

  talking with the women at work, i'm surprised at how many are not totally happy.

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  The more I read this thread, the more it warms my heart.....and makes me want to gag at the same time.
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  [Silly] Awake! magazines you'll never see

  by Ephanyminitas in

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  you see, this is what happens when i stay up too late.

  that third one is an actual undoctored photo.

  his eyes just look like that.

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  This was the tread that got my family their first look at jwd, and boy, did we have a laugh!
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  NEW Barbara Anderson News Story!

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  thursday september 26, 2002 6:40 am .

  tullahoma, tenn. (ap) - joe and barbara anderson have been abandoned by their peers.

  their son won't talk to them, and won't let them see their 3-year-old grandson.

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  jack2

  Thank you for posting this Undisfellowshipped, and good post by hawkhaw too....ChristianObserver, good points made too.

  I discussed this with a Catholic guy that I work with, and he felt it was certainly wrong for victims and their advocates to be disfellowshipped. We discussed the fact that, though the Catholic Church has also done wrong in the area of abuse, at least they do not excommunicate those who were victimized or who speak out.
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  [Silly] Awake! magazines you'll never see

  by Ephanyminitas in

  1. jw
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  you see, this is what happens when i stay up too late.

  that third one is an actual undoctored photo.

  his eyes just look like that.

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  jack2

  I have not laughed this hard in a long time....oh man, this is great!! I'm gonna show this to my family tonight!
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  Please Accept My Most Heartfelt..........

  by Englishman in

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  recently, i have had a few occasions when it's been neccessary - no, essential - that i say sorry to someone for something that i have said or done, in order that someone's hurt feelings are healed.. it doesn't make me feel demeaned at all when i say sorry, i don't feel any less of a person because i have apologised, although i am aware that some people find it almost impossible to apologise.. what do you think?

  is it a sign of weakness to apologise?

  is apologising a desirable thing?

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  jack2

  Good replies! I think apologizing is indeed something that shows strength, not weakness. It should be done without subtly or overtly trying to pass blame or imply that the receiver is somehow being overly sensitive....for example - "I'm sorry that you felt offended at what I said" is no real apology. I feel it should be made unconditionally and with sincerity. It then will hopefully be accepted, and then both parties can move on.
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  [Silly] Awake! magazines you'll never see

  by Ephanyminitas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you see, this is what happens when i stay up too late.

  that third one is an actual undoctored photo.

  his eyes just look like that.

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  jack2

  Oh God, this is sooooo hilarious! Thanks Ephiph and Trauma!