Sorry about my spelling. Wireless keyboard keep missing out letters. But I think you catch my drift.
artemis.design
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So my Dad is finally out... And I'm as mad as hell!
by artemis.design inmy story isn't very interesting.
i left as a teen, never baptised.
a plesant but distant relationship with my jw family.
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So my Dad is finally out... And I'm as mad as hell!
by artemis.design inmy story isn't very interesting.
i left as a teen, never baptised.
a plesant but distant relationship with my jw family.
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artemis.design
Yes hypocritical is exactly right. I am really cross, that of all things, its a disagreement over money that is keeping him away. He never calls me or comes over, I always have to see how he is doing, then out of a blue he invites me over, even suggestion I come over while the rest of the family are at the meeting. I meean, the cheek of it. I usually only see in 3 or 4 times a year. On the other hand, maybe now is a good time to sow seeds of doubt, before he is let back into the fold?
Arte
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So my Dad is finally out... And I'm as mad as hell!
by artemis.design inmy story isn't very interesting.
i left as a teen, never baptised.
a plesant but distant relationship with my jw family.
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artemis.design
My story isn't very interesting. I left as a teen, never baptised. A plesant but distant relationship with my JW family. I read the board quite a bit, but don't often post. The main reason I used to come on was to try and gleen new info to prise my family away from the Borg.
Now my hope has come true. My Dad has finally left. But it wasn't that he finally saw the light and started questioning the religion. I'm not even sure of the exact reason. But I think it was because he was the unofficial money lender for the last 20 years, and when the recession hit and he stareted calling in the loans (to save his company from going bankrupt) the relationship with the congregation turned sour. Many refused pay up, when he threatened legal action, he got councelled. He had to choose between the congregation and his business and the business won.
The rest of the family are still in. I don't think he is DF yet, but he is getting a hard time. I know I should try and be there for him, but I am also resentful and feel so distant. Although I was never shunned, none of my family were there for me, we have never had a conversation more meaningful than the weather. I didn't have an awful life, but my Dad in particular made life harder than it needed to be. Am I expected to forget all of that and go to his rescue now that he has no one else? Only to be forgotton about when he has been forgiven and get's back in with the Borg??
Confused Arte
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January 1 WT - Garden of Eden - Most inane article in a while
by eric356 inthe wt has really managed to outdo itself in regards to stupid, poorly researched articles attempting to defend ancient myths as literal history.
the latest effort is the cover article "the garden of eden - myth or fact?".
no moderately educated adult should have to ponder that question for long before answering "myth".
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artemis.design
I find it ironic that they point out that most schollars and even religious thinkers accept that the majority of the story is allegorical, yet pride themselves as having the "truth" without one solid piece of evidence to back themselves up. Technology has advanced to the point we are are finding planets in other solar systems. If there was a global flood this would be a very easy event to prove. My folks just don't get that. Arte
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Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute
by oldlightnewshite ini thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.
maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.
if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.
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artemis.design
I have just thought of 9 & 10
9) Shunning
10) Stupid rules with no biblical basis
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Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute
by oldlightnewshite ini thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.
maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.
if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.
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artemis.design
I left over 10 years ago, before a lot of the scandals hit the fan.
So this is mine
1) Genocide/ Armageddon
2) Blood Transfusion
3) Mindcontrol, not allowing personal research
4)Lack of Charity
5) Twisting the scriptures ( the Revelation study book in particular)
6) false Prophecy
7) Never acknowledging mistakes
8) Hypocrates (my Dad was constantly being councelled for being too materialistic, yet the elders had no problem taking interest free loans and not paying him back.)
Im sure there is more, but these are the main points
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NOW how do you view the Future?
by theMadJW incasting aside what little you learned about god and christ- are you thrilled with the future of mankind?.
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artemis.design
We are living in a time of great scientific advances, medical marvels, and fantastic achievements.We are living longer, we are striving for a greener world, and there is more freedom of though and opportunities (for women particularly) than at anyother time.
There is nothing pessermistic in my view of the world. There is great human suffering, but no more than at any other period. The only difference being we now have the mass media which can report these stories.
I am not afraid of death, I do not live in fear of judgement, I embrace the future and all it has to offer, a hope that one day we can really live in "peace and security" of our own wordly making . Yes I am thrilled and excited about the future.
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Reverse Shunning
by gutted ini have a confession.
i am using reverse shunning.. i have ignored the elders calls.
i do not want to hang out with witnesses anymore (besides my family and one friend).
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artemis.design
I have reverse shunned all my family and Ex-JW friends. It was probably wrong of me as I was never baptised, so was never shunned by my family. I just have very little interest in anything they say or do.
Arte
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"Shadenfreude" is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others
by artemis.design ini have only resently come across his german loanword, but it has become my new favourite word.
we don't have an english equvalent, but it sums up so joyously what i feel everytime i hear some misfortune regarding jw organisation.. am i bitter & twisted???
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artemis.design
I have been out for a long time, and am lucky I still have some limited contact with my family.
I don't hate any 1 peron, or have any bad feelings towards anyone as an individual. But everytime there is something that shows the borg up, suffer some kind of embarrassment or misfortune, I definatly do feel Shadenfreude.
I think you are right, I am desperate to get my brothers and sisters out. Maybe that is why??
From reading a lot of the posts, I don't think I'm the only one that feels this.
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"Shadenfreude" is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others
by artemis.design ini have only resently come across his german loanword, but it has become my new favourite word.
we don't have an english equvalent, but it sums up so joyously what i feel everytime i hear some misfortune regarding jw organisation.. am i bitter & twisted???
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artemis.design
I have only resently come across his German loanword, but it has become my new favourite word. We don't have an English equvalent, but it sums up so joyously what I feel everytime I hear some misfortune regarding JW organisation.
Am I bitter & twisted???