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  A "Funny" Thing Happened On the Road to Damascus...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!

  as you may or may not be aware, i recently posted a thread regarding the relevancy of the name of our lord.

  in that thread, and one or two others, i mentioned the language of our lord... and thus, the accurate rendering of that name.

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  miseryloveselders

  That was another nice, loooong, post there AGuest. I'd like to say I read it, but I'd be lying because I didn't. I don't have to. You're a freakin nutcase, a self-aggrandising egomaniac with delusions of self-grandeur. You're coo-coo for cocoa puffs, you're a fruit loop without the milk.

  You need to find yourself a nice padded cell with some nice men in white coats that can administer you some tasty Lithium, cause you need it. The voices in your head that you claim to be from YHWH God? That's your psyche slowly cracking your personality from within.

  In short, you're a loon - get some help.

  - Wing Commander

  
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  Strange statement in last week's study article

  by civicsi00 in

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  there was a strange statement in last week's study article.

  well, let's be honest: there were plenty of strange statements!

  but one in particular bothered me.

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  miseryloveselders

  This thread is hilarious...

  You know something, it really is. Its hard not be a bit cynical regarding this stuff at times.
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  "Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers"

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2 cor 6:14 .

  always been given that scripture about marrying someone who is not a jw or same belief.

  while that may be true, i just realized when reading vs 14-17 that was talking about the congregation.

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  miseryloveselders

  Even if we applied it to marriage, in the first century, all that was necessary for being a Christian was belief that Jesus is the Christ and the only way to gain access to God the Father. Not belonging to a specific group of Christians who bear a specific organizational brand name. So if we actually used this concept in terms of what the Bible actually says, Christians would just be limited to marrying other Christians. Sounds like a good deal! A lot more options that way.

  Furthermore, even if marrying a non-Christian was forbidden, does the New Testament contain any punitive measures to be doled out if someone chose to do so? No. That being said, it seems more logical to let people make their own decision on that. After all, Paul said women should not speak in the congregation, but they sure speak during JW meetings. How far do we go with turning Paul's letters into a new Law? It can get to a rather murky place, if you ask me.

  -sd-7

  Well put.
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  More AGM News- spiritual matters (with paragraphs this time!)- disregard other epic fail post!!!!

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always find it interesting how emails vary in perception.

  two more 'snippets' have arrived and i am posting them for forum consumption (this is still technically 'spiritual food') and discussion.as with the last thread, the original author and those they emailed are not responsible!

  i was like 4th/5th on the chain of these emails and none knew of my intent to reiterate the contents here in cyberspace.

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  miseryloveselders

  What really bothers me about this developement if you will, is how they print articles about the need for our love and worship to be genuine. They emphasize that Jehovah reads hearts and won't accept worship that isn't from the heart. One of the old songs had the lyrics, "I want to" which if my memory serves me correct was a song about genuine love and adoration for God, his laws and principles, and fellow believers. Now they go completely contrary to all of that by pressuring JW relatives in good standing to pull a bait and switch with DF'd relatives. The bait being able to have a normal family relationship based off of genuine love. The swich being conditional love based off of what the formerly DFd relative does outwardly to make the appearance that he/she believes in God, and recognizes the WTS as His chosed organization. Its sick. The only thing they'll accomplish with this is a bunch of families with more unnecessary tention and strain, undercover apostates, and more people going on Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, Effexor XR, etc..

  By the way, is the song "I Want To" in the new book?
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  Dec 2010 Awake: Recycled Well-to-Asians WT "Commentary"

  by Red Piller in

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  2. bible

  *** w94 12/15 pp.

  3-4 what does christmas mean to you?

  what does christmas mean to you?.

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  So if it lost all religious meaning, like pinantas, it should be up to the member's conscience.

  You would think, but that wouldn't stop the powers that be in WT-Land from using the "stay seperate from the world" argument, or the "greedy commerce" argument, etc..
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  Dec 2010 Awake: Recycled Well-to-Asians WT "Commentary"

  by Red Piller in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  *** w94 12/15 pp.

  3-4 what does christmas mean to you?

  what does christmas mean to you?.

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  I was thinking since the Japanese have removed all traces of religion from Christmas, does that mean that that Japanese Witnesses can follow their conscience and choose whether they wish to celebrate or not with no threat of punishment? I know, its a stupid question, just sayin.......
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  WT Society's Sly Guilt & Fear Tactics on Young People in Nov.15th WT

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as many on this board are aware- the wt society is losing younger members in big numbers.

  statistics show that 2 out of 3 jw's raised in the cult leave between the age of 18 to 35. so like they always do- if the wt society sees a " need " or " problem " arising they address it in wt study articles.

  thus notice how manipulative the wt society uses fear, guilt, and put down type comments to intimidate young jehovah's witnesses in this wt study article in nov. 15th issue.. under the titled article " young ones - what will you do with your life ?

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  miseryloveselders

  I haven't even read the article, and probably won't. Nothing new under the sun with the WT and education. When I was in high school, I really didn't apply myself too hard because I thought the end would be here. Now I'm in my thirties. I never bothered taking the SATs because I knew I wasn't going to college anyway. Not to mention my parents advised against taking those tests. I wish I could go back to middle school and high school. The things I would have done differently. Granted I'm not starving by any means. Being single with no kids and working class is alright with me. I prefer a blue collar enviroment anyway. I'm doing ok in life, but I always regret and wonder what my life would have been like if it wasn't for those filthy, rotton, dispicable old men in Bethel influencing my parents. They really did a number on my life. I hate those old bastards, and that is no lie.
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  More AGM News !!!!!

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  more agm news continues to trickle in..... .

  as a disclaimer i feel the need to draw attention to the fact that all information was initiated by faithful/believing jws so if any lurkers thinks they recognize nuances of an email(s) they might have similarly received.... the original bro/sis holds no responsibility for my actions of reiteration..... .

  anywho lets get on it........ .

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  miseryloveselders

  shameless bump for the weekenders....

  YNot, let me ask you something. There's some confusion as to the context of their resolution of DF'd adult relatives and how they're to be treated. Are they saying, they don't want us to be too extreme in how we shun DF'd relatives? Or are they saying we shouldn't be too extreme in spending more time with DFd relatives?
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  Reggae appreciation---come share, mon...

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  2. entertainment

  i was listening to the radio in the car while andy and julian were in the store a while ago.

  grand rapids has a nice little indy, listener supported station.

  this amazing song came on, so beautiful i just have to share.

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  miseryloveselders

  Somebody already posted Eddy Grant. I had the hardest time finding his discography at record stores and online. His stuff is out of print. A couple blogs helped me out though. I had this song on repeat after hearing the first time.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhker3RS-T0

  This isn't really reggae per say, but the sample is, and his flow pays homage to reggae. In middle school we were all wearing Raiders and Kings stuff because of these fellas, and I've never been to L.A..

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPbeIXZpD4
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  Reggae appreciation---come share, mon...

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i was listening to the radio in the car while andy and julian were in the store a while ago.

  grand rapids has a nice little indy, listener supported station.

  this amazing song came on, so beautiful i just have to share.

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  miseryloveselders

  Very nice, Misery, never have heard that one before. When were you in high school?

  graduated either 94 or 95, I can't recall. This was hot back then too.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TsbMOxxVJQ