This makes my day. How this stuff ends up on an apostate website before tons of elders across the states even get their hands on this stuff. It's comical. You know I had a talk a few weeks ago, and I misplaced the outline when I wanted to start working on it. I was mad because I was going to have to drive to the KH to make a copy of the outline. Then a light bulb in my head went off!! I thought, "hmmm, I wonder if those wicked apostates have the outline already?" And wa-la!!! I found the outline on here, it saved me 15 minute drive to the Hall!!!! Something else ironic, at the circuit assembly they mentioned apostates being online. The brother at the assembly stated "we don't let the apostates interest us with their propaganda and disturb our spirituality! Nor the bad publicity in the newspapers!" I thought to myself at the time, "you're right we don't! We're too busy agreeing with those apostates, and getting the latest information from the WT before our local elders get the information!!"
miseryloveselders
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KS Blood-Handout s-55-e (PDF)!!!
by yknot inwe interrupt your forum posting for this 'just in' item...... it appears an elder has not locked his doctor's bag and a member of the conscious class has brazeningly swiped & scanned a copy of the s-55e.
(((thank you anonymous cc jw!.
for the purpose of our bethel audience i want to assure you no actual elder was willingly involved in the obtaining of this scan.. link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mnf7a0.
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miseryloveselders
I wonder how he feels after all of this. If I was in his shoes, I'd want to crawl in a hole and die. I wouldn't ever be able to look into anybody's eyes after all of this. He has to feel crummy.
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Another question about the Governing Body
by dgp innow that all the members of the original governing body have completed their earthly course, a question popped into my mind.. i know that there was no governing body prior to 1971. before that, how was jehovah supposed to communicate with the anointed?
and, how come he decided to have a governing body, so that the new light would come to more men, instead of just the president of the watchtower?
why was a governing body not there since 1914, for example?.
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miseryloveselders
Actually, the Governing Body, IMHO - was simply to get power away from the crazy Freddy Franz so that he could not embarras the society again like he did over 1975. Franz never forgave them for it, either.
Now this is a real gem! I've seen firsthand, and heard about politics in local congregations, and even assembly programs, but the backstory to Freddy vs the GB would have made for great television.
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Another question about the Governing Body
by dgp innow that all the members of the original governing body have completed their earthly course, a question popped into my mind.. i know that there was no governing body prior to 1971. before that, how was jehovah supposed to communicate with the anointed?
and, how come he decided to have a governing body, so that the new light would come to more men, instead of just the president of the watchtower?
why was a governing body not there since 1914, for example?.
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miseryloveselders
Prior to the Governing Body, Jehovah communicated to the brothers by Bro.Jack Daniels, and Bro.James"Jim"Beam.
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New Facebook Rule for JWs?
by wifeofjw injust about everyone in the hall my husband attends is deleting their facebook account.
he just cam back from a ms meeting.
what's the deal?.
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miseryloveselders
That's the latest boogie man in JW land. Social Networking sites, that and romantic vampire movies, oh yeah, almost forgot! Education is the big big bad again! But yeah, at the Circuit Assembly, social networking sets are bad news.
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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miseryloveselders
You got to see it from gb point of veiw---let's see now, I don't pay taxes, don't pay electric, don't pay oil or gas, don't pay insurance, don't pay mortgage, don't pay rent, don't buy cars, don't pay for vacations, don't pay for doctors, don't pay for dentists, don't pay for eyeglasses, don't pay for food, I DO PAY for MY OWN TOOTHPASTE, all r&f needs to be just like us, what do they need a good education for anyway???????????
Good post. They're a bunch of blood sucking moochers.
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The Governing Body and 2 Chronicles 10:13-16
by metatron injudging from some recent events and the km school in particular, it sounds like the (younger) governing body members are following the course of king rehoboam, with all their talk about college and blood.. i couldn't be more pleased.. metatron.
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miseryloveselders
In a way it could very well be prophetic, especially considering the WT's view of types and antitypes. This was an antitype that even the brilliant mind of Freddy Krueger Franz couldn't foresee.
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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" Pursue Divine Education"was the talk. Some key points are:
Ask yourself the question, "am I secretly hoping to prove wrong the warnings that have been given regarding Higher education?"
Am I trusting in Jesus words at Matt. 6:33? Manna was a not just a gift of food to the Israelites it was a lesson that God will take care of any need that we have. Higher education such as a college or university education has no value, it's expensive, and a sign of a lack of faith in Jehovah if you encourage your children to pursue. Look at Baruch's example and how he was seeking great things for himself. Printed Experience from a "brother" who went to college. He said, "I am incredibly sad that I wasted those years in college" College is a snake pit.
If an appointed man's children attend college, or if he encourages higher education his qualifications would automatically be reviewed by the entire BOE using the following questions. It is likely that he would no longer qualify for the privilege of service.
1. Does he show by his example that he is putting the Kingdom 1st?
2. Does he teach his family to put the Kingdom 1st?
3. Does he respect and obey what has been published by the FDS?
4. Do his speech and conduct reveal that he is a spiritual person?
5. How is this decision or attitude viewed by the congregation?
6. Why is his child pursuing higher learning?
7. Does his Family have theocratic goals?
8. Does this pursuit of learning push out meetings and service?
I am missing the last two questions.... does anyone else have them?
One point that was made was that once a child goes to college that many of them if not most, stop being active witnesses. This has got the branch on the defensive. I couldn't believe how negatively higher education was portrayed.
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You know I was having a pretty good day until reading this. Now I'm irritated, and hungry at that. Lunch isn't for another 2 hours at least. This is actually beautiful though. They remind of Jerry Glanville, the former coach of the Atlanta Falcons, and his famous comment to the referees when they made poor calls. "This is the NFL. You know what that means? Not For Long if you keep making lousy calls like that one." They keep pushing people between rocks and hard places, something's gotta give eventually. For the life of me, I'll never understand how these people keep watching their young people leave, 2/3 of their young people leave this religion, and they still want to blame it on romantic vampires, higher education, shopping, going out to eat, extreme sports, and video games. They just can't understand that people are doing all thats natural. They're looking to provide for themselves, they're looking to provide for a future family, they're looking for a wife or husband, they're looking for recreation. They're doing all that's natural for people to do, and those numbnuts in Bethel just can't seem to figure out that not everybody wants to pioneer, or become ministerial servants and elders. Nor should even want to in some cases.(James 3:1,2)
They're so out of touch that its actually laughable. My circuit assembly wasn't that long ago, and the DO mentioned in his prayer, and I kid you not! He mentioned in his prayer that it was a tragedy how many young people they've lost. It's a classic case of not seeing the forest through the trees. It's not the video games, or romantic vampires, the same way it wasn't the gangsta rap and heavy metal music 10 years ago, nor whatever boogie man they'll come up with next year. Its them! Its them! They just can't accept that. As far as the manna from the sky, yes Jehovah looked out for the Israelites in the wilderness. However to compare what Jehovah did for the Israelites, to the literature created by a religious publishing company too big for its britches is disrespectful to God. At the assembly, I noticed that the speakers made it a point to substitute Jehovah for themselves whenever possible. I don't even think it was intentional. They view their material as not coming from the minds of imperfect men, but rather from Jehovah. It's impossible to reason with them on higher education having any value when these delusional men believe that their literature is not from them, but rather from God. They view the meetings, assemblies, conventions, and even the family worship night as being provisions from Jehovah too.
You know, the more I think about it, it reminds me of Moses when he gave credit to himself and Aaron for producing water from the rock, instead of giving proper due to Jehovah. The only difference is, now the roles have been reversed. This WT organization makes decisions, creates doctrine, changes docrine, reverses decisions, sends this or that letter to the BOE, rescinds this letter, asks that letter be destroyed, and then they give credit to Jehovah for all of it. It really is a bizarre, twisted organization any more. It leaves their flock confused, it leaves the elders confused. It's more of an emotional nightmare built off of absolute authority and uniformity than any so called spiritual paradise. If this is a spiritual paradise, I cringe to think of their private thoughts on how they envision an actual physical paradise that they'll serve as kings and priests.
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What's the saddest movie you've ever seen?
by JimmyPage ini'm asking because i just watched "the road".
it may not be the saddest but it's up there.
"my sister's keeper" was a real tearjerker too..
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miseryloveselders
Misery, warm up, dude.
Whats that mean FHN?
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What's the saddest movie you've ever seen?
by JimmyPage ini'm asking because i just watched "the road".
it may not be the saddest but it's up there.
"my sister's keeper" was a real tearjerker too..
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miseryloveselders
I hated LAst of the Mohicans. I wanted Mogwa to win, but he got owned. His attitude when the one womand decided to jump to her death made me LOL. He kept it G.