HOT ITEM !!!!
In my personal opinion, a fine first read is this out of print book. The "other book" by Carl
http://s98060354.onlinehome.us/BU/The-Sign-of-the-Last-Days-When_1987.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/crisis-conscience-raymond-franz/dp/0914675249/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354095941&sr=1-1&keywords=crisis+of+conscience.
http://www.amazon.com/search-christian-freedom-raymond-franz/dp/0914675176/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354095976&sr=1-1&keywords=in+search+of+christian+freedom.
http://www.amazon.com/combatting-cult-mind-control-best-selling/dp/0892813113/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354096024&sr=1-1&keywords=combating+cult+mind+control.
HOT ITEM !!!!
In my personal opinion, a fine first read is this out of print book. The "other book" by Carl
http://s98060354.onlinehome.us/BU/The-Sign-of-the-Last-Days-When_1987.pdf
few things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the km every holiday.
so glad to have tomorrow off.
hey fds...piss off.
Few things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the KM every Holiday. So glad to have tomorrow off. Hey FDS...PISS OFF
lately i've been thinking about fading from the cong but im not sure about what would be the top reason in my list.
without writing 2 page answers, question for anyone posting in repply to this or whoever reads this.
what would be your reason/reasons for fading?
My fade, while having great personal cost, SAVED MY FUTURE GENERATIONS. I got my kids out, and grandkids.
i moved to san diego over 10 years ago and was still active at the time.
since that time however, i have executed a nearly perfect fade.
i would like to see if i can get in touch with some of the friends i had made in that short amount of time to see if they are still going or possibly have opened their eyes as well.. i went to the pacific beach congregation for quite some time and also knew/visited several friends in the kearny mesa and spring valley halls.
I also have faded. got my kids out too !!! I'm in the Santa Barbara area.
Two wonderful people who helped me are in San Diego http://www.watchtowerworld.org/NilsJansma.htm
They both blog on freeminds.org
Sherri at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=106&Itemid=661
Nils at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=109&Itemid=664
contact me at [email protected]
I finally met them this summer and took them to lunch as a big thank-you.
Wish you the best and welcome !!!
xelder
some questions for jwstruggle's apostasy trial videos:
1) what the heck happened with your marriage?
why did your wife divorce you?
OK turtle....
You assume a lot. Ray posted all this but that doesn't mean he has to be questioned about his marriage. Instead of asking for more, just a thanks for the awesome job he did do would be fine. The rest in not our right to inquire. Please leave this alone.
thx xelder
just like in another thread a saw, the best way to deal with my jws is not debating or arguing, but instead posing questions for them to answer or not answer.
i want to come up with specific questions relating to the 'global flood' that completely debunk it.
what say you, jw.net?.
Living Bristlecone Pines are absolutley known to be over 4700 years old by actual tree ring count. By counting rings of dead trees that haven't decayed yet, absolute proof has been established that these trees have been alive continuously for over 11,000. A really nice park exists near Bishop, California. No flood covered those mountains !!!!
if you do tell me a bit about where you live in just a few words.
:).
timmy :).
between LA and SF, on the 101
well i figured i should give you all an update.
they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.
it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.
Hey Ray,
All the support I can offer bud. You are not alone on this journey, but I feel for your stress.
Hey everyone else....This is a good man.
i have a lifelong buddy (g) who is now df'd ....doing great and happy.
he has a nice boat.
a while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.. elder: "hi g. i know this is a little strange, but i don't know who else to call".
"How's about you call the coast gaurd, that would probably set you back several thousand"
i have a lifelong buddy (g) who is now df'd ....doing great and happy.
he has a nice boat.
a while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.. elder: "hi g. i know this is a little strange, but i don't know who else to call".
I have a lifelong buddy (G) who is now DF'd ....doing great and happy. He has a nice boat. A while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.
Elder: "Hi G. I know this is a little strange, but I don't know who else to call"
Buddy (G): "Hi elder, how ya been, nice to hear from you"
Elder: "I'm scared for my kids, they went sailing and are stuck 50 miles up the coast, tide coming in and they are stuck, cold, scared to get smashed into rocks. You are the only person I know that could go help them. Please?
Buddy (G): No problem, on my way.
My buddy is that type of guy. Went 50 miles up the coast and towed them back. A week later, those same kids saw him downtown and resumed the shunning. Who is the moral person?