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  BOE 2014-11-06 Procedures when legal issues are involved

  by wifibandit in

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  full set: http://imgur.com/a/z4k2t.

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  GLTirebiter

  Regarding #35: "Don't come back!" does not mean "Try again in two years."
  
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  The True Mark edition of Gospel of JOHN!

  by J-DUBBED in

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  2. bible

  i just got one of these small books in our mailbox.

  new living translation.

  tyndale house publishers.

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  GLTirebiter

  It's not likely to be from JWs. They are committed to the New World Translation. NIV tends to be a more idiomatic than literal translation.
  
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  Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

  re: 2015 calendar in english.

  if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

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  GLTirebiter

  The conclusion then is either:

  1. The GB do NOT actually "scrutinize" each and every WTBTS publication, or
  2. All of them are poor proof-readers.

  3. The GB and writing staff lack the education which normally would be expected of professional writers and editors.
  
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  After Mar 15 WT, who NOW is represented by the Wise Virgins??

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it used to be that the master "arrived in 1918" and the virgins put their lamps in order.

  according to the noolite, the arrival is yet future.

  however, the gibbering buddies now insist that the annointed have not fallen asleep, but stayed awake up until now.

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  GLTirebiter

  prophetic interpretations of the parables

  There is the root of the problem: not recognizing the different literary genres and styles used in biblical works, trying to turn them all into literal prophecies when the majority were written neither literally nor prophetically. Even the prophetic books (Isaiah, Jeremia, Ezekiel, etc.) often used more poetic styles familar to people of those days, helping them to be easily remembered (a necessity when written books were few and literally hand-written). Those linguistic nuances do not translate easily into modern language and experience, especially not the word-by-word translations favored in the Watchtower's NWT. The modern styles of writing we are familiar with were seldom used twenty centuries ago.
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  What's with this "no windows in kingdom halls" thing?

  by Trapped in JW land in

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  2. friends

  i hear many people on this forum say that kh's don't have windows.

  but i have never been to one that didn't have windows.

  is this only in a certain area or something?.

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  GLTirebiter

  I understand that (locally) it's mostly a matter of cost: building costs and heating/cooling costs. Some of the larger halls in more affluent araes have windows, while smaller and poorer ones do without. Fitting and installing windows also is a task that takes some patience to do well, so it burdens the weekend "quick build" time table; here the cost is in hours rather than in dollars.

  It could also be related to zoning laws. Often the city will require some minimum amount of windows so the building will fit in, not looking too "industrial" for the area. The building committee must include some windows in the plans, so they can get their building permit approved.

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  husbands

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  have you found that,.

  the longer she stays 'in' the greater her sense of entitlement?.

  that any convo immediately reverts to the wt 'party line'.

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  GLTirebiter

  Have you found that,

  • the longer she stays 'in' the greater her sense of entitlement?
  • that any convo immediately reverts to the wt 'party line'
  • any plan for any time together is screened against meeting schedules

  Yes,

  yes,

  and yes.

  It kept getting intense right up until I was handed divorce papers.
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  your favourite Christmas music , and merry Christmas to you all

  by jhine in

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  2. entertainment

  i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .

  it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .

  please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .

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  GLTirebiter

  This has been a favorite of mine for almost four decades. Sung by Emmylou Harris, with back-ups from Neil Young, Dolly Parton, and Linda Rondstadt.

  Light of the Stable
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  Just quit quietly - the law is on your side!

  by Ajax in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.

  your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.

  those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.

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  GLTirebiter

  Don't get so preoccupied with the DA letter / JC/ DF situation that you neglect something important. See my comment in this thread.
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  What laws are on your side (in the U.S.) so you can leave quietly

  by oppostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".

  here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.

  baugh v. thomas (1970).

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  GLTirebiter

  Opinion: I am not a lawyer, etc.

  Don't let the Letter of Disassociation and Judicial Coucil sideshows distract you from attending to the genuinely important business.

  Update all hospital and medical records which indicate you are a Witness and follow the "no blood" policy. Those need to be fixed, in case you must be treated while unable to make your own decisions. You don't want the Hospital Laision Committee telling the hospital what medical decisions you have made, and you probably wouldn't want a bedside visit from the elders either.
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  Graduation and Pinning

  by sooner7nc in

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  2. friends

  giving my speech.

  being pinned by my son.. .

  the best day ever.. .

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  GLTirebiter

  Congratulations, Sooner!