What crmsicl said: "you are not letting your history define you at the expense of your destiny"
Congratulations on pursuing and realising your passion.
hello jwn!
i don't get to check in here or comment as often as i would like because i have been working so hard at school...but i just have to share my news in hopes that newbees can see that taking the leap to enroll in higher education is worth it-.
i am graduating this spring with a bachelor degree in art history, minor anthropology...many people (including nonjw's have given me flack for choosing a "dead end" career path) but since leaving the watchtower organization's group-think mentality and "leaning on my own understanding" instead... i decided to say fuck everyone else's opinion...i am going to pursue my passion to work in a museum as a curator or archivist-.
What crmsicl said: "you are not letting your history define you at the expense of your destiny"
Congratulations on pursuing and realising your passion.
7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
Congratulations Snare, and thanks for sharing what is possible when we put our mind and shoulder to it.
under "2014 convention reminders":.
seat saving: when the doors to the facility are opened each morning, please to not rush to the seating area of your preference as if competing with fellow attenders.
a self-sacrificing spirit that moves us to seek the good of others identifies us as true christians and moves onlookers to praise god.. ................................................................ i personally don't recall them previously making reference to the jw-version of the "running of the bulls" that takes place every morning when the doors open at 8:00 a.m. have seen it myself many times, it's always good for a laugh.
I never want to sit in any of their seats ever again.
It seems rather daft to chase prime seats when one is only going to be force fed propaganda and spiritual poison.
i am in awe of the level of intelligence, wit and funnybones that alot of you posess.. which made me wonder, did you have a mild superpower while you were in?
for instance was it giving talks, commenting, research?
maybe it was pissing people off (a much underated skill).
Nothing comes to mind, but it was as if someone had switched on really bright lights once I was granted the free gift of faith and began to reject religion as antithetical to faith and spirituality.
i am beginning to see a complete unbalanced shift from one end of the spectrum to the other.
i'll use jw's as the example but this would apply to any religion and any person.
if you just accepted the jw teachings unquestionably from the governing body because you felt they were the highest authority on the matter and 'trusted' them before waking up to ttatt you may shift to the other end of the spectrum.
On page 255 of Carl Sagan's book, The Demon-Haunted World, he discusses "the advance of science" and how "a few saintly personalities stand out amidst a roiling sea of jealousies, ambition, backbiting, suppression of dissent, and absurd conceits"
hello my fellow "apostates".
just wanted to say hi.
i'm still in the borg but mentally out.
Welcome fakefading!
As often observed on JWN you could one day be very pleasantly surprised by the outcome patient and simple questions and basic shared exploratory research can have.
As long as you never dump on your wife you should be fine.
There is no point in beating a blind person with a stick because they cannot (yet) see what you can...
In the mean time may you have blast and make many good friends here on JWN.
Fernando
SE QLD, Australia
i am beginning to see a complete unbalanced shift from one end of the spectrum to the other.
i'll use jw's as the example but this would apply to any religion and any person.
if you just accepted the jw teachings unquestionably from the governing body because you felt they were the highest authority on the matter and 'trusted' them before waking up to ttatt you may shift to the other end of the spectrum.
Personally I don't believe education and science belong in the same category as religion.
I find them opposite.
Except if one is talking about propaganda masquerading as education, and vested self-interest masquerading as science.
if memory serves there have been discussions about:.
pressure to donate to cover convention expenses far beyond actual expenses.
obtaining venue subsidies and or sponsorships but not passing on the savings to the flock.
If memory serves there have been discussions about:
pressure to donate to cover convention expenses far beyond actual expenses
obtaining venue subsidies and or sponsorships but not passing on the savings to the flock
parking fees to generate more revenue
Tonight I suddenly wondered if anyone has any information on what undisclosed kick-backs the Watchtower might be collecting from hotels on the approved list? If so what percentage? Would they be as bold as 50%?
Is there any proof of coercion to stick to the approved list?
Did arranging accommodation in private homes stop in favour of hotels that could and would pay "commissions"?
Surely our favourite council of octo-popes wouldn't go to all the trouble of drawing up a list of approved or recommended hotels if there wasn't anything in it for them?
(Apologies if this has been asked and answered elsewhere.)
about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.
i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.
as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.
I have come to conclude that the Watchtower may possibly be largely right in the way they interpret Hades versus Gehenna.
However in staking out a definitive and supremacist sectarian position on peripheral doctrine they are simply promoting apostate Nicaean ethnocentrism.
It is no accident that those who call themselves "publishers of the Good News" are ignorant of the "Good News" according to Paul, Moses, Isaiah and Psalms.
nasa.apod.gov.
(astronomy picture of the day) shows the sizes of 12 exo planets (compared to earth), that have been found to be in the habitable, liquid water 'goldilocks ' zone of their sun-like stars.. may be it is more than a 'world-wide brotherhood' and sad that we have to be the lucky ones with satan confined here.
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