Posts by Fernando

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My Child Has Asked Me to Divorce Husband

by HeyThere in

i guess i am just venting.

its a mess.

i just dont even know where to start with this crap.

Fernando

How long must one wait to see if someone will wake up and change?

How long is piece of string?

I pray for wisdom for you as you try to figure out the conundrum...

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i'm 30 years old, and i was raised in the organization, my parents and grandparents are witnesses.. i grew up in a small town, and due to boredom or adhd or rebellion, i never took 2 minutes to look into the religion.. i always went to meetings and field service.

my parents were regular, but never "super-witnesses" so it was always the thing we did (meetings and service) not much more and nothing less.. the congregation, that i grew up in was for the most part friendly and enjoyable.. small towns, are very unique and they cannot be compared to larger city congregations.. i honk that they are a living and breathing organism, depending on the coordinators personality, so goes the personality of the congregation.

thi king back, most of the people in the town that i grew up were good people, just simple hard working & honest people... i really long for the innocence, of the time when this was the truth, and there were no worries.. driving to the conventions at 3 am with my dad and another brother, them slicing meat, me sneaking around the halls of the college, getting into all kinds of things.. conventions were a really special time for me... when i was young me and my friends would run around, messing around, pulling pranks on people, getting into forbidden areas.. running in the hall ways.

Fernando

Thanks for sharing all those delightfully human moments and experiences objectivetruth.

Best wishes on the unfolding journey...

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First Post - Emotionally Torn

by scaredtospeak in

i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.

i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .

i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.

Fernando

A very warm welcome scaredtospeak.

JWN is a great place to speak your mind, grow, develop and trade tips and advice.

It is a little hard to give specific advice until we know you and your circumstances better.

Having never been in the US it is also hard to work out your age too.

Wikipedia does help much either: "In the United States, a sophomore is a student in the second year of study at high school or university."

At any rate if you are at school you may have to explore if and how you and your parents could reach a truce.

However when we are adults it is crucially important to be true to ourselves and our beliefs (if we are to avoid Cognitive Dissonance and resulting illnesses).

What are the possibilities of living with your brother/s?

Your parents have assumed they are right and you are wrong.

As a SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious) person of faith (and an exJW) I have one question for your parents: "Is it honest to call ourselves 'Publishers of the Good News' whilst unfamiliar with the Good News according to Paul?"

Best wishes on JWN and on your life's journey.

Fernando

South East Queensland, Australia

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One thing about this site that bothers me

by keyser soze in

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the constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.

but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.

one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.

Fernando

Too true.

Maybe we should instead be focussing on the hounders' (Pharisees') giant sized arrogant attitudes which seem way out of kilter with the image of humble workers ("slaves") that they hypocritically seem to want to project, whilst glorying in their draconian power and authority over the contemptible "laity class" of "dumb sheeple".

"Dare to question us and we'll kill (DF) you in front of all your friends and family."

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Any ideas for my return visit?

by KateWild in

i had a really fun day today.

i went to town on first call to witness to the jws on the trolley outside the main train station in the city.

i had prepared two different presentations depending on whether or not the jws knew me.. if they knew me i planned to tell them how unjust my last jc was and that i didn't believe jehovah cared about me or anyone, and if they didin't know me i would just question them about their disfellowshipping policy.

Fernando

The Good News is you are not a Watchtower religionist (Pharisee) at heart.

The only way they can seem right is if they discredit their detractors (us).

Whilst they remain committed to maintaining the charade and deception they have no choice...

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OMG I'm so happy!!!!

by Julia Orwell in

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yup, the apostate is happy.

i shouldn't be, right, because my life is empty without "jehovah" and the organisation.. but i just got a job at one of the best theme parks in the world, which is so what i want to do, and it's the first permanent job i've had since i lost my government job in 2012!.

the job pays minimum wage but i don't care because working in tourism and entertainment is what i want to do!

Fernando

Excellent news - our family is delighted for you. May many more exciting doors open...

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Change.org campaign

by sp74bb in

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http://www.change.org/petitions/launch-an-investigation-to-determine-if-jehovah-s-witnesses-have-a-right-to-use-coercion-forms-of-mental-torture-to-force-its-members-not-to-leave?share_id=ycgggfgqxa&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition.

interesting.... i have already signed !.

Fernando

Done.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

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Anti JW Internet Banner Ad Campaign

by kneehighmiah in

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i would be willing to donate if some of the big anti watchtower activist worked together to create an anti-jw internet banner ad campaign.

one click could change lives.

for example the material on jwfacts could irreversibly damage the faith of even the strongest jw in under an hour.

Fernando

One way to get started right away is DIY until others "get it" and want "in".

Not too hard to get a banner designed and hosted with links to JWfacts and possibly your own webpage.

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suggestions from Crisis of conscience

by monis1 in

my husband is inactive, but still very much believes in the borg as having the truth.

i now have coc in spanish.

i am currently reading it, but i would love to know if anyone can point me to any specifics.

Fernando

That was a beautiful summary moggy lover.

If you have a summary of ISoCF I'd love to read it too...

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

Fernando

As my faith journey unfolds I am learning that our intangible spirit connects us with higher powers and higher intelligences from higher dimensions (beyond our 3 dimensional world).

It is in our spirit that we "hear" or actually discern the "living word" behind the "written word". Our spirit facilitates higher learning where we come to "know" and understand things over and above what we learn through our 5 senses.

Watchman Nee (1930-1972) explained the spirit has three main functions or attributes: conscience, intuition and communion (fellowship).