Didn't some rather dramatic events at the time of Jesus' death indicate abandonment of the physical temple, in other words the end of the Jewish system?
Fernando
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When did the last days start ?
by raymond frantz insomewhere hidden well within the jw.org exists an article about the last days of the last days of the jewish system of things .when did the last days of the jewish system of things start was it at the pentecost or before that ?
is that important when we compare jesus' days our days as a way to find what will initiate them ?
i wrote a small post in relation to this any extra valid information towards this will be much appreciated.
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What is the perfect product to sell to a JW?
by usualusername inwhat is the perfect product to sell to a jw?.
cheap?.
exclusive?.
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Fernando
Everything they are buying from the apostate Watchtower Organisation?:
- organisational salvation
- baptismal salvation
- self-righteousness
- hypocrisy
- works-righteousness
- a VISIBLE golden calf as pseudo-mediator (GB/FDS/JW.org)
- clericalism (an authoritarian hierarchy)
- legalism (rules)
- moralism (more rules)
- ethnocentrism (supremacist doctrine)
But of course if it is about a quick buck then one would have to go with what joe134cd said is hot at this time.
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A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION to those on J.W.NET...
by new hope and happiness inwhat is important to you and why?.
maybe i should begin with a few suggestions:-.
love,.
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Fernando
The custody battle fought over us (the human family) by means of controlling religion and its nemesis the liberating gospel of grace and peace.
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The ignorance of the "sheep"...and will door to door work phaze out due to being "challenged" too much at the door?
by integ inhello friends.. i notice alot of talk about the future and what it would take to bring the whole thing down and no one seems to think it can or will happen any time soon.
just seeing people here talk about what will happen once 2034 comes and goes is very discouraging.. i'm amazed this religion continues to move along as it does.
building, growing etc.
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Fernando
I wonder if the d2d work is more likely being phased out, by means of initiatives like "trolly folly", jwTV and jw.org due to basic math lessons the GB have taken at JWfacts.com.
Total hours of FS worldwide for a given year namely 2013 [ 1,841,180,235 ],
divided by (an estimated) half the baptisms, namely those not recruited by their parents [ 0.5 X 277,344 ],
divided by a 10-hour-per-month publisher's hours per year [ 10 hours per month X 12 months ],
equals x-years of doorknocking by a 10-hour-per-month publisher per baptism via doorknocking.
Years = 1,841,180,235 / (0.5 X 277,344) / (10 X 12) = 110 years
In essence, using 2013 figures, it will take a 10-hour-per-month publisher (an average of) 110 years to generate 1 baptism via doorknocking.
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The ignorance of the "sheep"...and will door to door work phaze out due to being "challenged" too much at the door?
by integ inhello friends.. i notice alot of talk about the future and what it would take to bring the whole thing down and no one seems to think it can or will happen any time soon.
just seeing people here talk about what will happen once 2034 comes and goes is very discouraging.. i'm amazed this religion continues to move along as it does.
building, growing etc.
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Fernando
Hey integ!
I agree, the mindlessness is frustrating.
Sadly most householders, including especially Christians, are no different, and have nothing substantive or useful to offer the next doorknocking WBTS cultist.
Just ask almost any "Christian" to explain what the gospel is in one word.
The result is the same as a "car salesman" that does not know that a Ford is a motorcar.
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Melbourne's Herald Sun -- "confessions of a Jehovah's Witness"
by MrMonroe inall the dubs pouring into melbourne, australia for the international convention gonna choke on their cornflakes when they read this .... http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/former-jehovahs-witness-lifts-lid-on-stifling-doomobsessed-religion/story-fni0ffsx-1227092921890.
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Fernando
Another very well written model that could be followed in many other cities by those so inclined...
I'm feeling a little inspired...
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Why I Refuse to Accept the term APOSTATE
by Black Man inbeen going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool jw) about the term apostate.
she has labeled me one because of my fading and because i stopped attending meetings a few years ago.
i told her that i refuse to accept the term apostate because its a lazy way for the wts to not deal with dissenters and address why people are leaving this organization in droves.
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Fernando
Black Man, my thoughts too.
Besides laziness (on the part of the R&F) it is also deception on the part of the hierarchy.
Apostasy is correctly defined as spiritual unfaithfulness, adultery, fornication, or prostitution (Ezek 16 and 23) of which the Watchtower is doubly guilty.
The evidence is in how this harlotrous organisation and hierarchy use malicious clericalism, magisterium and misdirection to keep their followers ignorant of "the truth of the Good News" (especially according to Paul in Romans through Hebrews).
Reference: search Watchtower library for -
aposta* unfaithful*
using paragraph scope, and displaying results from the Bible only.
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New development in my life
by EdenOne inno longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
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Fernando
Fantastic Good News EdenOne.
Our family is with yours in spirit, and if you expect the worst from those following a false "Good News" you will at least not be disappointed.
A great future awaits once you have put off the weight of the corrupt and dysfunctional Watchtower Organisation.
(Hebrews 12:1) . . .So, then, because we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the [dysfunction] that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us. . .
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So I'm going through a really difficult time right now.
by scaredtospeak ini was publicly reproved last year and the elders have taken their sweet time in reinstating my "privileges".
it's been six months and i can't answer at the meetings or participate in the theocratic ministry school.
in all honesty- i don't care about the privileges.
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Fernando
The gospel versus religion.
Being able to participate in worshipping the god of religion is no privilege at all. You might choose to let them keep their "privilege".
Did you know that your mom would find it impossible to pursue the "Good News" according to Paul, and remain a follower of the Watchtower Organisation?
You could "agree" to a family study of the book of Romans, and focus on the "free gift" of "imputed righteousness" (aka Justification) as taught by Paul. In time your mom will be unable to avoid comparing this with the self-righteousness (works-righteousness) common in the Watchtower.
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The Governing Body et al Should Have Been Disfellowshipped!
by The Searcher inwhen the wtbts association with the un & the osce was exposed, their own rules should have been rammed down their corrupt and lying throats!.
thank you so much for the watchtower cd rom.
you made a huge rod for your own back.
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Fernando
They have.
By Jesus.