jesus had nothing to say - for or against, homosexuality.
yet in his name, ignorant 'christian' parents will shun their children.
and jesus does not interfere.
Very interesting observations matt2414.
The Watchtower is not the sole purveyor of so-called "Christian" - but actually apostate - legalism and moralism, which foments ignorance, hypocrisy, bigotry and supremacist self-righteousness.
Search wt lib:
An alternative perspective: http://biblehouseofgrace.com/same%20sex%20relationships.html
meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
We often try to speak for God on which prayers he does/doesn't, can/can't answer, and why.
Maybe a little presumptuous?
At any rate, I believe like Ray Franz that God rises far above any particular religious organisation or ideology, and is not guided even by their mere existence.
been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.
now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.
a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.
Welcome Gustv Cintrn.
What Good News that the (materialistic and legalistic) Watchtower virus is not (always) able to (totally) stamp out authentic community, culture and humanity.
I was blown away recently to discover that there are more native Spanish speakers than native English speakers (worldwide)!
We're delighted you are here - please stay and share.
Greetings
Fernando
meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
Hugs for you and your husband, LennaB.
"Please rember this is fairly new to me and I was taught this from a young age... I just turned twenty this year only a few months ago.."
Time is on your side.
Take a deep breath.
Have your favourite drink.
Slow down.
Calm down.
Be grateful (for waking up so early in life).
It is a process - not an event.
You do not have to figure it all out today.
It should be an exciting journey of discovery.
Yes, we've all been lied to, but are now free.
It can be a bit of a shock to discover that our "trusted leaders" are simply blind fools.
We are partly to blame.
Remember?
(Psalm 146:3) . . .Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
Instead of listening, obeying and being blessed, what did we do?
We allowed a small group of men to claim God had appointed them over us (read clergy class or clericalism).
We allowed them to insert themselves as self-appointed middlemen (read clergy class or clericalism).
By refusing to deal direct, we rejected God in favour of a VISIBLE Golden Calf (read clergy class or clericalism).
One day your future self will smile and laugh at much of the fuss and confusion your present self is dealing with.
It passes.
Clarity and peace takes its place.
Now back to the beginning...
Take a deep breath...
Have your favourite drink...
Slow down...
Calm down...
Greetings Fernando
loving and forgiving are a huge component of jesus' message to his disciples.. in answer to the question as to how many times forgiveness should be offered to an offender, jesus gave the reply, "seventy (times) seven.
" (variously interpreted as either 77 times or a multiple of 70 times 7).. an example is given of a man who owed a considerable sum of money whose debt was forgiven.
this man failed to forgive a much smaller debt owed to him.
Matt 23 (esp v15) suggests Jesus was particularly fond of religious leaders.
hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!
i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.
i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.
"I am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of Jehovah God in England."
Why then is the "Good News" according to Paul, Moses, Isaiah and Psalms not in your heart, and not on your lips?
Simple question, yes?
No honest, humble and direct answer?
meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
As most here have discovered, when you tell Pharisees (religious leaders) the truth, they respond by killing (df'ing) the messenger, as they did Jesus.
Yes, 2000 years, and nothing has changed.
Still, we are here for you, when you get back, from meeting with the apostate Star Chamber Judging Committee.
i haven't really been on here in like, a year.
my stbx introduced me to this site and then a whole buch of life happened and i just sort of never had time for forums.
but here i am at 3am, another sleepless night, and i feel like i am simply lost.
Sorry for the challenges you are facing, Shattered Reality, and sending you best wishes for coming out much stronger and wiser on the other side.
Sometimes I wonder if (this) religion has taught us to have unrealistic, rigid, and absolute expectations of relationships.
The reality it seems is that relationships are complex, and do not always (have to) work out.
when people willfully believe something without evidence, or contrary to evidence, are they neglecting thier moral responsibility?
so many people say faith is a virtue but i just can't comprehend why anyone would think that.
.
Why discuss such an important concept using the spurious definition of faith that we were taught by the deceptive, manipulative, propagandistic and self-serving Watchtower Organisation and its apostate "ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy"?
