Posts by tiki

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How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

by Julia Orwell in

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i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

surely education should come first.

tiki

omg - haven't read much of the responses, but will just plug in my personal.....was a bright kid....honors society, slated for college......oh no, can't do that.....might have sex or end up believing in evolution. stuck in a miserable situation....frustrated and resentful. tried to pioneer and failed...took courses here and there for the intellectual stimulation, really had nothing to go on..................

much much later....after leaving the org....at a very late date in my personal schematic, enrolled in a degree program. am only a few credits away from the degree and plan to go ahead into a masters program. my brain at last has the stimulation it requires, and my job prospects - while i am in a decent situation, my brain is not being used as it should be.....so..............i truly hate and abhor the negative stance this particular group of people have put on higher education. it is totally unproductive, stupid, and destructive.

end of rant.

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Was it hard for you as a JW to be around girls or boys?

by suavojr in

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this picture brings back some memories.... .

what happens when a 14 year old boy gets bombarded about how evil it is to feel a natural attraction towards the opposite sex?.

first - you encounter the robot from lost in space, yelling danger, danger!.

tiki

wow - when i was growing up there was indeed a great divide. i recall though that throughout the 90's the kids(in our area) got together in mixed groups and actually had a lot of fun...i always wondered how they got away with it given what i lived through....but, bottom line, it is all warped. the whole idea they perpertrate is that everyone given the opportunity is going to fornicate....and it is so far from reality. very sad, the manipulation of natural growth and expression.

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To the many generous intellects on this forum

by Socrateswannabe in

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you so smart.. me dumb.. me want to be like you.. how?.

seriously, i would like to tip my hat to those of you who entertain and educate me every day on this forum.

i am grateful that you are willing to share what you know, unstintingly.

tiki

well....i do think that it takes some pretty dammm good mental perception and guts to see through the hooey and move ahead. and yes - there are some highly intelligent participators in this forum.

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protestors at assemblies

by Hillary in

is there any protesting done outside the assemblies?

or is it only done at conventions?

i believe some of my relatives have an assembly coming up soon.

tiki

i think they are best ignored........why give them ammunition to daydream they are being persecuted, hounded, mistreated and misunderstood?

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Who songs that remind me of the jehovahs witnesses

by hoser in

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two that come to mind are.

my generation and.

won't get fooled again.

tiki

Michael Bolton "when I'm back on my feet again...I'll walk proud down the street again....and they'll all look at me again...and know that i'm strong....."

learn to stand tall again....not going to fail again...........

gonna hear the children laughing

gonna feel the......

i forget all the words, but the feeling is there........it's like a recovery from an addiction.

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Happy belated b day to me: 30 years old on Feb 16th.

by Joliette in

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thought the world was gonna end between 2000 and 2010. can't believe its still here.

been on jwn for almost three year now.

damn it feels like heaven on earth to be an apostate!

tiki

awwwwwww.....you're a baby!!!! you go for everything you love and enjoy and have many great years ahead!!! happy belated 30th!!!!

go with your heart........live and love.....................and be the best you can be!

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Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

by Open mind in

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om.

tiki

wow - the last meeting i intended to attend was a memorial - honestly don't know when...but all day long i was in a fight with myself because i had it so deeply ingrained in me that i HAD to go, but i really did not want to. at one point in the day my husband asked me (seriously, i quote) "do you really want to go to the shindig"......his words..........mine were "we have to"..............then it got time to actually get dressed and i went downstairs where he was and just said "i can't --- i just cant...." and he was fine with it. we never entered a kh again until one very close friend died and we went to his event.

i will never go to anything there....i did my time. i am free now.

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Pulling the rug out from under the "apostates"

by konceptual99 in

would anyone agree that recent comments and changes to wt doctrine are designed to try and pull the rug out from under long established counter reasoning put forward by those the wt would consider apostates?.

the section in the recent wt, whilst not an apology, is apologist in it's tone and suggests that the wt society has just been doing the right thing by setting expectations.. apostate: "you keep saying the end is coming and it still hasn't.".

wt - "well, our zeal in following jesus may have prompted us to raise expectations too much but we are only doing what we are asked to do.".

tiki

billy the bethelite (no more) - you said it all. in a nutshell.....ty!

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December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism

by Room 215 in

i wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.

one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".

one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.

tiki

vidiot - i think you have something there......at least he piqued interest on some level. i gave up on it a long time ago, but just reading and skimming through stuff people post here from the mags/lit...it is worse than sad. why even bother..............but it is diabolically clever at warping emply heads and sad sack people who can't get beyond themselves................i hate that i was stuck in that place for as long as i was.......wasted years.......................

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Should you pay the Obamacare penalty or buy health insurance in 2014?

by moshe in

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i am already reading that some plan to drop their medical insurance coverage on january 1st and just pay the penalty-.

an individual with $30,000 annual income would pay a $300 penalty in 2014, $600 in 2015 and $750 in 2016.. an individual with $50,000 annual income would pay a $500 penalty in 2014, $1,000 in 2015 and $1,250 in 2016.. an individual earning $100,000 a year would pay a $1,000 penalty in 2014, $2,000 in 2015 and $2,500 in 2016.. here is your insurance subsidy calculator-.

http://healthreform.kff.org/subsidycalculator.aspx#incomeagetables.

tiki

everyone should have health insurance. granted the corporate giants are ripping us off and the system is warped - but you need it. the whole system needs total revision and everyone should have access to equal coverage. the increases in premiums employers pay for their personnel are exorbitant and escalate annually - the part that the personnel personally pays for escalates as well. the less the employer can budget, the higher the portion staff will have to pay - but their salaries will not necessarily increase annually to mirror the upward trend of coverage. it is a bad situation and corporate greed is a definitive factor that is virtually impossible to eliminate. total overhaul is required, and like it or not, socialized medicine is most likely the fairest alternative.