Posts by babygirl30

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As a JW Were You or Someone you Knew Falsely Accused by Elders ?

by flipper in

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thought i'd put this out there to see if you knew of people in the jehovah's witnesses who were falsely accused or mistreated by the " police " or elders in the congregation.

many times it's been by experiencing injustices that get us to get shaken out of our cult thinking mode and reality kicks in and the scales fall from our eyes that the wt society is just a man made organization whose leaders are no better than us - actually in many cases more unscrupulous and conniving than any of us would have ever been to each other !

i was falsely accused 2 times .

babygirl30

OH....this topic is 1 close to my ARSE!!! (hehehehhe)

I live in the same apt bldg as a former inactive JW sister. This woman and I used to be friends, but the friendship CEASED because she really has issues - and loves MALE attention. She would attempt to 'hook up' with EVERYONES man (married ornot) and she was studying with a nice woman and her daughters, all the while, making blatant attempts to 'screw' this womans boyfriend and asked ME to keep it a secret. She had been married twice (to nuts), DF'd twice because of it, and has been inactive for years bringing man after man into her home - with her young daughter witnessing it all. TRIFFLIN woman if there ever was one!! She and I had a fallin out because I just didn't like how she treated so called 'friends' and her incessant need to have ANY man....so I left her alone. At this time in the org, I was heavily involved - so I had brothers come in to visit me from Bethel, across the US, and from in my circuit all the time!!!! In the past I would include this sister in my gatherings, but since we were no longer friendly, that all stopped. Apparently, she didn't LIKE that and made every attempt to mess up what I had going on. The elders had tried to catch up with this woman sooooo many times (she had a man living with her at this point) but she avoided them at all costs. They would come knock on MY door asking where she was (as IF I was her keeper or gave a rats) ... finally, I start seeing this brother, and he spends a LOT of time at my home - alone. This inactive woman made an attempt to get my bf's attention, and when he turned her down - she decides to call the elders and tell them that she has not been going to meetings because she and her daughter are 'so discouraged' over how I have tons of MEN (brothers) coming in and out of my house on wknds (the 'men' were all JWs), that these men stay the night (she forgot to mention that I LEAVE when they do), and that she has heard noises (sex) when my bf comes over and we're alone. Not ONLY did she make this report, but she also got HER gf to claim she was at the house at the same time and overheard me having sex!!!!! So the elders come over and read all these scriptures...blah blah blah...accuse me of having fornication. I LAUGHED - I mean, this woman has a man LIVING with her, she is a baptized JW, she hasn't been to a meeting in years (no one really cared for this woman anyways) - and they take HER word over mine????? This 'investigation' went on for MONTHS....no exaggeration. I asked to have a mtg with this woman so I could confront her over her accusations - never happened. I had all my friends willing to testify on my behalf that nothing inappropriate happened - they were never spoken to by the brothers. I in turn was honest about ALLL the crap going on in this womans home (SHE was the one with men coming and staying over - all the while her daughter is in the next room). Do you think they opened a case on HER???????????????? Nope! Finally I had to get the C.O. at that time involved because tge witchunt got out of control where the elders would approach me every meeting, NEVER give me an update on what was going on, told me to 'leave it all in jehovah's hands', and would blow me off when I asked WHY procedure was not being followed....the C.O. told them to finish it up and end it - they questioned me AGAIN (never brought this inactive heffa in front of me) and so the case was closed. But it left a BAD gutt feeling that I was being 'watched' by the brothers closely because they did NOT like that the C.O. got involved.

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Explaining what DF'd means to a non-witness

by babygirl30 in

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i actually had to do this twice in the past 2 weeks - and it's really shaken things up!

the first time was last week.

my aunt (who lives out of state) asked me how my parents were doing (her brother and my mom)?

babygirl30

I actually had to do this TWICE in the past 2 weeks - and it's really shaken things up! The first time was last week. My aunt (who lives out of state) asked me HOW my parents were doing (her brother and my mom)? I told her that I didn't know HOW they were...and then I broke it down about me being DF'd and my family having nothing to do with me because of that. My explaination was hateful, wasn't mean, wasn't out of spite - I just told her the facts of why I was DF'd (as the elders told me), why my parents won't talk to me, and why I have chosen NOT to go back to the org. She was FLOORED and very upset!! She called my dad (her brother) and scolded him for chosing his 'religion over his own blood' and how NO God they ever were taught to love would agree with this type of treatment of ones own child. She reported back to me that my dad was being stubborn and would not back down...and she ended the conversation by saying how disappointed she IS in him for being this way.

The other example was yesterday. one of my friends came to visit me from out of town, and we were talking about our families...and the same topic came up. I explained my situation with my family and all - dude was MAD. He kept saying that he always thought JW's were 'crazy' and that this situation proves it. No exaggeration - literally 5hrs after I told him the initial story about my being DF'd and my family shunning me, he commented AGAIN (out the blue) about how he can't get over the way JW's act and treat each other YET they go knocking on peoples doors trying to get new people to join!

I think it's so ironic how CLEARLY others see the workings of JW's on the outside, but when I was IN IT, I couldn't see it...I thought everyone ELSE was crazy for thinking JW's were nuts. I would defend the org - not knowing any better. Anyone else gotten 'reactions' out of non Witnesses when you explain WHY ur not a JW anymore or WHY your family/friends don't have dealings with you anymore???

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Questions Young People Really Ask

by wouldacouldashoulda in

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i currently work for the writing committee of the gb and have been asked to write an update to questions young people ask funnily called questions young people really ask.. .

could you give me some questions to start exploring?.

w.

babygirl30

HAHAHAHAHA (Loosie)

I used to ask my mom that all the time: if JW's aren't supposed to go to college, then HOW do they get dr's, lawyers, and accountants? Those are professional trades that needed 4yr schooling - so why is it ok for THEM, but not for everyone else?

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Questions Young People Really Ask

by wouldacouldashoulda in

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friends

i currently work for the writing committee of the gb and have been asked to write an update to questions young people ask funnily called questions young people really ask.. .

could you give me some questions to start exploring?.

w.

babygirl30

Do I really want to get baptized?

What does being baptized into the organization REALLY mean and do I fully understand it?

What age should I get baptized?

What happens if I no longer want to be a JW?

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Young JW sisters in a hurry

by asilentone in

did you notice any young jw sisters in the past that did rush to get married too young and to have a baby right away before the end comes?

did you hear any stories of regret?

i was wondering if the watchtower is to blame for?.

babygirl30

Literally - ALL my old gf's got married at 19-21! I went from wedding to wedding all within 2yrs, the ODD man out, because I could not find a 'suitable husband' to marry. All the comments of "I can't believe ur not married...what is WRONG with these brothers?" or else the inevitable "just keep praying in specific for Jehovah to send u a nice brother" UGH!!!!!!!! We are all now 30+ and MOSt of these couples are divorced, looking for their 2nd mates, and or stuck it out and are sooo unhappy. It's sad, but it makes me VERY happy that I didn't marry some idiot brother who didn't deserve ME or know how to be a 'good man'.

I also agree that being so sheltered as JW's are when it comes to dating, leads to this 'rush' to get down the aisle AND to have sex. U figure, in high school everyone is pairing off - finding boyfriends/girlfriends. What does that leave for a JW teen? So then u find a brother in the org (ONLY requirement is baptism) and date. Of coures if u r NOT sure about marriage within 6 mos of dating someone in the org, then u stand to be labeled as 'misleading' the others feelings??!!! So u either make a decision to marry and/or break up - it's a rushed decision that RARELY do I feel a lot of young people make.

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WT Annual Meeting is tomorrow, 3 October, 2009.

by Open mind in

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anyone going?.

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babygirl30

Look at how many pay $5000 or more per person for the thrill and excitement of traveling to a foreign country, only to be forced to attend a district convention for 4 days, wear meeting clothes every day of the trip, and visit tiny Bethel offices (instead of seeing "worldly" cultural sites).

I know friends that saved for a year, went into DEBT, begged and pleaded for money - JUST so they could go to Mexico to the International Convention for a 5day trip! Of course back when i was still in the org, That was so inspiring to me...I mean, to travel and be around JW's everyday all day. NOW....being out....it just sounds ridiculous. That's $3000 that they could've saved for bills, a vacation, um - maybe savings JUST IN CASE they lost their jobs (which some of them did).

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Bethelites and Athletes - are they the same?

by babygirl30 in

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forgive me if i sound completely cynical - but i have always wondered what the big deal with was brothers who are living at bethel!

i have known sisters that would give their right arm to be around them, snag one, and/or be able to say she is 'dating' a bethelite - as if that's the greatest thing in the world.

jw's from all over the world come to 'visit' them and they receive clothing, trips, food, boarding - all for free!

babygirl30

I have met some very nice and simple bros/sis at Bethel....and have had plenty of friends be a part of that. As I said, my cousin was there and so I would go up regularly (or he would visit me) and hang out with he and his buddies. But to be honest, they ALL were the 'cheapest' BUMS I've ever met. They had this aire of entitlement - and when i would say 'no' or make some comment about their neediness, Iwould get the typical "now you KNOW we don't have much, but we sacrifice our time for Jehovah" speech!! None of them had any real 'job' skills, were socially inept, and although some were pretty 'cute' in my eyes - I didn't deem them 'marriage material'. What do I want with some guy that has been secluded from the real world and had things handed to him?? UGH! No thank you. But some of my gf's at the time would always offer to accompany me to Bethel (or when my cousin came around my place) so they could hang out with he and his boys...trying to hook up with these Bethel bros. What for??? HAHAHAHA! Maybe i'm a bit too worldly in the mind, but I just don't see the draw to a Bethelite.

.....now athletes are a different story!!! Those I do like.

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Bethelites and Athletes - are they the same?

by babygirl30 in

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friends

forgive me if i sound completely cynical - but i have always wondered what the big deal with was brothers who are living at bethel!

i have known sisters that would give their right arm to be around them, snag one, and/or be able to say she is 'dating' a bethelite - as if that's the greatest thing in the world.

jw's from all over the world come to 'visit' them and they receive clothing, trips, food, boarding - all for free!

babygirl30

Forgive me if I sound completely cynical - but I have always wondered WHAT the big deal with was brothers who are living at Bethel! I have known sisters that would give their right arm to be around them, snag one, and/or be able to say she is 'dating' a Bethelite - as IF that's the greatest thing in the world. JW's from all over the world come to 'visit' them and they receive clothing, trips, food, boarding - all for FREE! JWs will bend over backwards over a Bethelite, and it's soooooo special when 1 of them comes to visit their Khall or give a public talk (wait...I stand corrected....a SPECIAL talk they are called cause Bethelites are SPECIAL speakers)!!

When u add it all up - Bethelites are the equiavlent of Athletes! People bend over backwards for athletes, they get whatever they want, things are practically HANDED to them, wherever they go - people make a fuss over them. Women WILL give just about anything to be seen with/date/sleep with/or get knocked up BY 1, and people pay ridiculous amounts of money to go visit their stadiums all to watch them in action.

Am I wrong???? Bethelites are so highly regarded....and I just never got why. My mom would tell me "Maybe u will meet a Bethelite someday?" And the older I got, i was able to respond "WHY - they are 'bred' to be TAKERS and to expect everything to be given TO them. What do I want with some broke brother like that????" - hahahahaha (no offense to any ex-Bethelites, I'm just using my cousin and his buddies as an example - they were THE biggest users from Bethel I've ever met.)

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WT Annual Meeting is tomorrow, 3 October, 2009.

by Open mind in

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friends

anyone going?.

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babygirl30

I remember how JW's in my hall would BRAG about their 'connections' to Bethel and being invited to attend the Annual Meeting! Um...what WAS the big deal? I never got the point.

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A sincere question to active JW's

by feenx in

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friends

a recent post displayed a letter written by a current elder.

it got me thinking about active jw's in general, and i am quite curious, in a genuine and sincere manner, how one deals with curiosity and sincere questions and/or concerns about the organization.

in my experience, as with the people i grew up with who now are also out of the organization, we experienced extreme supression while inside.

babygirl30

I did the SAME THING - push all questions and doubts behind me! I was deathly afraid of people thinking I wasn't 'spiritual' enough by asking certain things...or starting 'talk' amongst the JW's in my cong because I was asking away!!