It would cause a domino effect: the membership would slowly drop because the fear would be gone. People could research in the open, talk and deal with Df family members without repercussions, and the conditional bonds would be broken...then the finances would begin to fall due to less members...then the society would also have a falling out
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On this Fathers Day...
by babygirl30 ini have never really spoken on social media about my jw family shunning me.
i didnt even discuss or answer any questions about why they didnt come to my wedding, my birthday parties, why there are never any pics of them with me/us together.
until today.... today i woke up and had this insane desire to be open.
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I have never really spoken on social media about my JW family shunning me. I didnt even discuss or answer any questions about why they didnt come to my wedding, my birthday parties, why there are never any pics of them with me/us together. Until TODAY...TODAY I woke up and had this insane desire to be open. To tell people the truth about it all and to put it out there why on Fathers Day 2018, my father isnt in my life. Below is what I wrote...and let me say that although I have been crying most of today reading and re-reading my post. It is the the support I have gotten from everyone OUTSIDE my immediate family that resonates with me - through and through. Just wanted to show that I'm proud of my damn self today! #yayme
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How long has it been since you have seen your family?
by Christian Gutierrez inhowdy guys!
so how long has it been since you have seen your jw family or friends?
or do you even care to have them in your life anymore?
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Almost 2yrs...last saw that at my annual family reunion, where they would walk right by me and not say 1 word - in front of everyone. 😥
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#1 ANSWER THIS: Why would an omnibenevolent and omniscient god put us through tests of faith?
by EdenOne ini'll be starting a series "answer this:" with thought-provoking questions for debate.
your arguments for and against are most welcome.. i'll start with this: .
why would an omnibenevolent and omniscient god put us through tests of faith?.
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I often questioned this myself...
1. If God knows all, why would he create humans he KNEW were going to 'ruin things' for everyone after?
2. Why would God just not kick Adam and Eve to the curb, create new humans, and let us all have a fighting chance?
3. What kind of God knowing sits back and watches people suffer - all to prove a POINT to a bad angel HE created (and could've destroyed)?
4. Didnt God KNOW all the crazy crap that was going to take place beforehand...so why didnt he intervene? And why were the Israelites of old times 'good enough' for miracles and saving from harm/starvation/death right on the spot...yet WE today arent?
5. Why did God allow Satan to even BE in Eden and taunt Adam and Eve? Isnt that playing games with people? And after they sinned, why not just erase their memory and start over? Why allow 1 mistake by 2 dummies cause such a ripple effect?
I have always been curious about those things - because outside of the surface reasoning the JWs provide, there never was any clear answer.
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Something in the air this season...
by babygirl30 ini have had some ultra weird exchanges with some existing jws these past 2 months that have me caught off guard (which is rare for me) - but overall just odd.. 1. i was out at a happy hour with some coworkers, and a woman whom i used to be friends with in another congregation came in with her husband.
background: her kids, myself, and her best friends son - were all close friends!
so we all were around this woman and her bff on a regular basis.
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but once they find the right person and get married, then all of a sudden they are diehard JWs who toe the line and rebuke anyone who questions anything or doesn't live up to those standards.
That is exactly my point! When they were down and out...or in need of some sexual healing (hahaha) their choices were fine at the time. But now that they seem to have found what they want, and PERCEPTION has them looking like 'model JWs' because they are married/dating - they have the gall to become the judge and jury.
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Hello
by googleTTATT ini am new hear to the board.
i want to share my story to you all.. i was a born-in jw, baptized at a very young age, pioneered, woke up three years ago, disassociated last year, i am twenty years of age now.
shunned by all my friends in the org.. please show me some love and share some of your experiences with me.
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Welcome to your real LIFE!
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Something in the air this season...
by babygirl30 ini have had some ultra weird exchanges with some existing jws these past 2 months that have me caught off guard (which is rare for me) - but overall just odd.. 1. i was out at a happy hour with some coworkers, and a woman whom i used to be friends with in another congregation came in with her husband.
background: her kids, myself, and her best friends son - were all close friends!
so we all were around this woman and her bff on a regular basis.
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I have had some ultra WEIRD exchanges with some existing JWs these past 2 months that have me caught off guard (which is rare for me) - but overall just odd.
1. I was out at a Happy Hour with some coworkers, and a woman whom I used to be friends with in another congregation came in with her husband.
Background: her kids, myself, and her best friends son - were all close friends! So we all were around this woman and her bff on a regular basis. In the meantime, this woman's husband cheated, left her and the kids, blah blab blah. She ends up meeting this non-JW man, dating and marrying him, and getting DF'd last I heard.
Recently: so she comes up to me at this Happy Hour and we hug and start chatting. She tells me that her bff had cut her completely off while she was DF'd, and how that hurt her. But that she decided to come back 'on her own terms'...meaning, she didn't make it about PEOPLE but made it about Jehovah. Um...ok?! Anyhow, she had no idea bout the violence I had experienced and how the elders treated me (since I was DF'd) and after telling her, she again went into this speech about how I should call her, she will always listen and talk to me - which I appreciate - but she continued to go into how coming back is so important, it's all about Jehovah and not the elders. In her words "f*&^ the elders...this is about you and Jehovah". My response to her was "why do I need to come back to the hall to fix my relationship with Jehovah? I'm confused...and also, I respect that you are doing things on your own terms, non JW husband and all, BUT...why should I live a lie, go back to something I don't believe, and be fake?" CRICKETS...
2. A guy that I used to be friends with and hung out with (a JW) posted a pic of he and his new gf on Facebook.
Background: after not seeing this guy for years, my fiance and I ran into him at a club one night, and in catching up with him, found out the he was married but separated, his wife was mental and abusive to him, and that he was inactive but majorly depressed because he could not get a scriptural divorce. We kept in touch after that, met up as friends a couple times, and he and his friends would come hang with my friends (all non-JWs). The LAST time we all got together, this guy was seeing and sexing it up with a non-JW woman that I know.
Recently: So this guy posts a pick of he and his new girl, I 'like' the pic and comment that I am happy for him. This guy sends me a PM and asks if I have changed my mind about going back to the org...and that he knows what I went through with my ex (who was an abusive JW) and that he is 100% sure Jehovah sees it all and is disgusted. He starts telling me that this new gf is a JW, and that they have been best friends for years - that she got him through his situation with his ex, and that he is happy now. My issue with this situation is - apparently this guy FORGETS that I know he couldn't get a scriptural divorce, I know that he was sleeping around, going out to the club, and seeing a woman I know specifically...yet all of a sudden, he now has a gf and is back to being a JW...out of nowhere...no consequences? No sanctions? No DF? But yet I should consider going back...really!
I guess what I am saying is that it never ceases to amaze me how easily these JWs FORGET their past actions. At least I live in my 'truth', I don't hide behind a double life. but these folks....smh...live in the damn dark! How hypocritical, as a so-called friend of mine, to have lived the ultimate worldly life, decided you want to go back, NEVER really own up to your own bull, and then try to encourage ME to return? Maybe I'm tired of people lying to themselves, because that is how it feels to me...like everyone is just living a lie.
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A woman's Heartfelt message to the Governing Body
by UnshackleTheChains ini just watched this lovely lady's heartfelt message to the governing body.
i hope that the men she named and all lurkers who have some clout at bethel listen to this message and stop this cruel and divisive shunning policy that has ruined so many family's around the world.
this is just one voice of many many people who feel this way about your (governing body) destructive policy.
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Powerful.
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Stephen Lett looks like a crazed maniac in the March JW broadcast
by jambon1 inare people taking this man seriously?
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he looks genuinely mentally ill. .
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He just LOOKS like that pervy grandpa that always wants kids to sit on his lap...while he tells a story! lol
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Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap
by HiddlesWife ini'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.
anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.
they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?
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I clearly remember being 18 and having brothers in their late 30s coming at me and expressing interest. A family I was close to tried very hard to hook me up with a 45yr old man when I was 21...and I was so disgusted. At 20-something, all I wanted was to travel and have fun, not settle down with this 'old man' who had already been divorced (wife cheated on him and left).
By the time I reached my 30s, dating brothers, having Bethelites come to my hall to 'meet me', and never having any issue meeting men at all - I had already made it yp in my mind that I was NOT interested in any JW brother. I wanted ambition, a real life, and good sex...lol...things I felt no brother could give me. And the rest is history! (Happily). But too many gf's of mine in the org were in a hurry to get married, and most did marry the first brother that came along. As a woman of color also, I had the opposite scenario, even in my 30s. Thirsty and weird brothers that wanted so badly to be married that basically threw themselves at me...but thank God I knew my worth and that I could do better!
The org really is male dominated, and the chances of a sister getting married after 30 is slim. Khalls are full of 30, 40, and 50yr women, single, no kids...still holding out for God to send them a good man. SMDH.