Um....sweetheart...I don't know what area YOU come from, but I have never BEEN and never will BE - ugly!
But I did have some associates in the org that were LESS then attractive - by any standards.
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Ugly Sisters
by XPeterX ino.k i have noticed that most female jws are ugly.and by ugly i mean ugly.they won't work out,they are fat and won't go on a diet (some female teens won't even shave their legs),they neglect their appearance/body in general.any opinions?.
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p.s many will eventually get fat after marriage.
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Joining JW's using the 'bait - n - switch' method
by babygirl30 ini used to work in advertising, and more specifically, with automotive dealers.
a lot of them are notorious (even though it's illegal) for the 'bait-n-switch' sales tactic: they advertise one loaded model car, customer calls in and is interested in that particular advertised model, the dealer claims to have it and so the customer stops in to drive it, and then bam!
dealers suddenly doesn't have the advertised model but offers the customer another low-end model for apprx the same price.. for some reason that reminds me of how people come into the jw religion.
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I used to work in Advertising, and more specifically, with Automotive Dealers. A lot of them are notorious (even though it's illegal) for the 'bait-n-switch' sales tactic: they advertise one loaded model car, customer calls in and is interested in THAT particular advertised model, the dealer claims to have it and so the customer stops in to drive it, and then BAM! Dealers suddenly doesn't have the advertised model BUT offers the customer another low-end model for apprx the same price.
FOr some reason that reminds me of how people come into the JW religion. They are 'baited' with all this hope and love, genuine friendship, and Bible knowledge on a surface level. Then the person gets baptized, and the SWITCH happens - they learn that the love is underminded with people who really don't give a rats butt, those friendships are conditional, and that NOW their dedication means they are to cut off ALL others (family, friends, children, associates) that are not part of the faith. It's illegal in the workplace and should be illegal across the board.
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privilleges equals spirituality
by stillin inwhat a sad joke!
posters here talk about the "do more" pushiness in the organization and that is so true!
elders just assume that you want to carry microphones and work your way up the spiritual ladder to that blissful state of total immersion in "kingdom matters.
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A CO gave a talk where he said fron the platform "If a brother can't even hold the mics in the Khall - WHAT makes him a good candidate as someones marriage mate?" I remember wrinkling up my face trying to figure out WHERE in the hell this dude got this instruction...
AFterwards my mother held onto that statement like GOLD! If I met a bros, and he wasn't an MS, she would start trippin with that whole 'remember what the CO said' BS. The weirdest part was that in seeing WHOM got the privilege of holding the mic in the Khall: 1) a developmentally challenged bros who can't live on his own nor hold a FT job, 2) a 65yr old EX elder who was now just an MS, and 3) an MS who is married and who is verbally abusive to his wife and children .... so WHAT kind of example is that?
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Local needs talk this past Tues at my wife's cong
by isaacaustin inon social networking and facebook was specifically mentioned, as well as how 'dangerous' it is..
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Well, I dont need to run away from her, so I sent her another message, thought I would take the time to plant a seed, what do I got to lose? Its been 25 years, so what is another 25 years without her?
Good for you!!!!! I was at the grocery store the other day with my bf, and in the lane right next to me was this JW sister from my cong (when I used to go). She looked me dead in the eye then put her head down. She then looked up again (guess she was confirming it WAS me) and then quickly rung up her groceries. In the meantime my bf says "Do you know her?" and I said YES...she is a JW. So as we're walking out, I made SURE to grab his hand (he kissed me on the cheek) and said "Hi *****" as we were leaving. You said it perfectly with your statement - we don't need to 'run' away anymore. Who are they?????
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babygirl30
HAHAHAHA! I hate that term "get together" or else 'gathering'
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To Those who are DF'd or DA'd: Is there anything that you wish you could have said in your JC?
by african GB Member indo you regret not having said it since you can't be afforded the opportunity now?.
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If I had it to do all over again (heaven forbid) I would've:
1. Demanded more respect in the way they spoke to me
2. NOT had the 2 elders I had ongoing personal issues with previously, ON my JC
3. NEVER told the elders everything as it was frankly none of their business!!
4. Told all 3 of those 'men' what I REALLY thought of them and their twisted jargon about being 'humble' and 'repentant'...
I was bawling through my whole JC (which lasted about an hour) and had just been physically assaulted by my JW fiance, I had visible bruises ALL over, I had recently been laid off from my job, and mentally/emotionally wasn't prepared to deal with any stress beyond what had already been tossed my way - and YET - these 3 elders took the opportunity to tear me up! The experience was liberating in that I didn't feel locked in anymore to those people nor the religion, but it was demeaning to have gone through such a trying time AND get kicked out the door of the ONE place I was always taught would give me peace and love.
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Birthdays and Marriages
by zombie dub infound an interesting page on marriage today: http://www.mysedonawedding.com/ideas.php?articleid=40&&catid=1.
rings - pagan.
veil - ward off evil spirits.
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That is something I have ALWAYS wondered - WHERE did the whole 'idea' of NOT celebrating birthdays come from? Never made any sense to me. I respect the fact taht JTB lost his head on a birthday, and some other story in the Bible about a birthday where someone died...but does that suddenly make birthdays a solemn holiday we aren't to celebrate???
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Some stay FOR the control?
by SearchingForMe ini have been wondering lately...do some stay in the borg for the control?.
let me expand that question.
do some currently in the disorganization stay specifically for the sense of control it gives them over others(mate, children, family, friends) and the way it lets them have perceived control of others?.
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GIRL....if yours is anything like mine - then I am giving you a straight up CYBERHUG!!!!
My mother sees everything in her little bubble as 'good' and whatever doesn't fit in HER bubble is 'bad'. Personal freedom and thought has no place in HER world, and me being as independent as I am only led to us FIGHTING and arguing nonstop. I didn't need to go to the 'hood to see fights, I had black-on-black crime right up IN my home when we would go at it. -hahahahahaha
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Some stay FOR the control?
by SearchingForMe ini have been wondering lately...do some stay in the borg for the control?.
let me expand that question.
do some currently in the disorganization stay specifically for the sense of control it gives them over others(mate, children, family, friends) and the way it lets them have perceived control of others?.
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the feeling of superiority JWs feel keeps them in the organization. Because so many haven't gone to college, don't have careers, in the real world they would be "nothing," but in the org they are told that they have real knowledge that even those who have been to the seminary don't. My mother is one of the superior JWs. She feels that she is better than worldly people, and most JWs because she really knows the bible (NWT). In reality however, she can barely keep a roof over her head. In all other aspects of life she is a perpetual screw-up. The KH is the only place where she has self-worth.
you NAILED my family to a 'T'!!!!! My mother has emotional issues, and so she throws scrip and doctrine in your face as if she sits at the right hand of God. LOL! She is NOT well liked in the cong because #1 - she is extremely judgemental, #2 - she feels she has the 'right' to counsel (brutally) whomever she wants, calling herself a 'seasoned sister', and #3 - she criticizes those that don't live up to HER spiritual standards (even though most things are supposed to be conscience matters). Add that all up, and you have one nuckin-futs woman!! I love her dearly, but she can be unbearable when she is in JW mode, and the worst part is that she can't FUNCTION without it...she can't hold a job, has many health issues, emotionally can't even handle keeping her house CLEAN let alone managing her time, she has NO friends (short of a 98yr old sister in the cong that lives in a retirement home and has stage 4 alzheimers - whom she calls her 'best friend'), she is not close to ANY family (not her own - and she can't stand my fathers family because they are all 'worldly') and when you try to speak to her about anything logical, she immediately breaks into tears and accuses YOU of disrespecting her. Without the JW 'aura' hanging over her head, this woman would crumble. She has no career and no life...so being a JW gives her a purpose of some sort - validation, where if she walked outside the JW world, she wouldn't even be noticed.
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Were you told to avoid telling HH's that they would be killed unless they listened?
by highdose inone of the many things as a child growing up as a jw that i never understood was this: a elderette told me her husband would be going to see the non jw freind of one of their sons.
it seems that the freind had directly challenged the jw son and asked " are you telling me that if i don't become a jw that god will kill me?".
the son hadn't known what to say to this, bearing in mind of course that the jw belief is "yes you will die at armargeddon if you don't become a jw".
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It was NEVER mentioned 'outright' but ALWAYS 'implied'! Back when i was 21, I was dating this guy that wasn't a JW (ooooohhhh....the horror)!
Anyhow, this guy was RARE: mature, non-religious, comes from a GOOD solid family, college educated, never married and no kids! Top it off with him being gorgeous - and he was a serious catch!!!! To this DAY my mom talks about this guy and how she always liked him (and he really got along with my mom too). So my parents hassle him to study - they tell him "If you want to have our approval, you NEED to become a JW" so this sweet man does...he studies with the PO of my cong at the time. Then he just couldn't TAKE anymore...long story short...he quits studying and my young and dumb ass dumps him. Either way, point is that my mom was SO upset by this guy NOT wanting to study anymore that she tells me
"Well, he can't claim ignorance anymore. Once you KNOW Jehovah's name - you are held responsible. It's his LIFE that is at stake, he needs to realize that."
I remember CRYING (yes...at 21 hearing that broke my heart) and threw me OFF because I just could not understand how in the world this amazing man who had never done anything 'wrong' in his life would be killed by a God that WE (as JWs) were touting as 'loving' all because he made a CHOICE not to serve him? He had the biggest heart of anyone I had ever known, and his fate lied in the hands of an org that dictated whether he was 'accepted or not'? That was really a turning point for me...even way back then.