Posts by Michelle365

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Need some support

by ~Jen~ in

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i don't post very often but i'm in need of some support.. i left my husband and the jw's back in the summer.

we have 3 kids and have joint custody of them.. i've spoken to my family once - back in the fall and it was a great conversation - my parents (dad is an elder) said that they just wanted me to be happy however that is.. last week i got a voicemail from my mom saying that she loved me and thought about me every day.

i was so happy.

Michelle365

Hi Jen! I could have unfortunately written a very similar post. I don't have the issues with my Mother, but what your ex said to you is exactly what mine says to me all the time.

I have 2 girls and we split custody 50/50 and I also work full time. I left just after our 9 year anniversary. It's been just over 3 years since I left my husband and the JWs. You said: He told me what a horrible person I was. How I've ruined so many lives in my quest to be happy. How I've ruined our kids lives and they are going to be screwed up because they now are from not only a split home but with a religiously split house. He asked me if I felt like a horrible person because I should - and if I don't feel that way then I am a disgusting human being.

You don't know how MANY times my ex has said this to me. Over and over and over. He denies all the issues in our marriage and acts like I just woke up one day and decided to be "worldly". It's asinine. I don't know what your schedule is like and if you allow the kids to go to all the meetings with him or if you intend to celebrate any holidays. IMO, it will only get worse the more you try to teach them to be "normal". It doesn't sound like your ex would be okay with that.

I still have my family but they are all out of state and I only have 1 local friend. It's so hard to get everything done on my own all the time. I feel like I have to be on top of *everything* everytime something JWish comes up. I have to constantly combat the brainwashing it is of upmost importance to me as I have been disassociated by the congregation. I can't have the kids get baptized and potentially cut me off.

I'm going through all of this and it's HARD and I'd love to talk more. Feel free to PM me anytime. I need all the support I can get as well.

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i need HELP debunking the HOLY SPIRIT

by Smoky in

i have a family jw friend spending two nights a week at my place, because of school... last night we had a discussion regarding my fading and i should come back, talk.

we covered many topics.

but i need to get him on that the holy spirit is not only in the jw just because they preach allot.. can anyone help.

Michelle365

Moshe! I love that. I'm cracking up! Great!

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Did You Hope Certain Newly Appointed Elders Would Change Things In Your Hall?

by minimus in

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i used to hear it all of the time!

i was 24 when i was first appointed as an elder.

certain ones who were disillusioned with the "old guard" were really hoping i'd come on board and change the way the body of elders did things.

Michelle365

Yes Minimus. You explained my thoughts better than I.

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Did You Hope Certain Newly Appointed Elders Would Change Things In Your Hall?

by minimus in

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i used to hear it all of the time!

i was 24 when i was first appointed as an elder.

certain ones who were disillusioned with the "old guard" were really hoping i'd come on board and change the way the body of elders did things.

Michelle365

I did for sure. But more often than not, they would run the new elder ragged and he'd soon lose his zeal and fire to make a change. I guess now it may be that the new elders began to see the *truth* behind the TRUTH. lol.

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Onereason for a gentleman fader to stay reasonably associated...

by whataburger in

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one congregation phenomenon i have observed in a variety of halls - older, not so model material brothers have a real chance with younger, attractive sisters - and often at the prodding of the young sisters parents and congregation members.. and if you have a little more scratch than the average jw brother (which isn't hard to do with a bunch of window washers), you really have an advantage.. a 40 year old man walking through the mall would have zero chances with an attractive 18+ year old girl.

but take that same man, who has been faithfully attending meetings and doing all the right things and put him in the kingdom hall and suddenly anything is possible.. sad, but true.. of course, who wants all the drama that comes with a girl that young - but it is something i have observed.. when i was in my early 20's and came back into "the truth", and i had a few dollars - and i had so many sisters tripping all over themselves for me... and the ages range from late teens to late 30's.

it was crazy.

Michelle365

I'm with you Magwitch. I find it appalling and disgusting.

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Wife love-bombed...HELP ME!

by Mad Sweeney in

i thought the fade was speeding up and there was light on the horizon for me and my family.

then yesterday my wife gets love-bombed and is ready to go back to the dubs.

i'm angry, cynical, depressed, disillusioned, you name it.. i don't know what to do for her.

Michelle365

That sucks Mad Sweeney! I can totally empathize on feeling like something is so close and then having it snatched away. I hope that your wife does wake up soon and that if not it's not detrimental to your marriage.

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Onereason for a gentleman fader to stay reasonably associated...

by whataburger in

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one congregation phenomenon i have observed in a variety of halls - older, not so model material brothers have a real chance with younger, attractive sisters - and often at the prodding of the young sisters parents and congregation members.. and if you have a little more scratch than the average jw brother (which isn't hard to do with a bunch of window washers), you really have an advantage.. a 40 year old man walking through the mall would have zero chances with an attractive 18+ year old girl.

but take that same man, who has been faithfully attending meetings and doing all the right things and put him in the kingdom hall and suddenly anything is possible.. sad, but true.. of course, who wants all the drama that comes with a girl that young - but it is something i have observed.. when i was in my early 20's and came back into "the truth", and i had a few dollars - and i had so many sisters tripping all over themselves for me... and the ages range from late teens to late 30's.

it was crazy.

Michelle365

I'm not sure Think About It. I was married for 9 years. After I left I had an elder come to me and tell me that my ex had been "inappropriate" with his 15 year old daughter while I was marred and that due to my ex's connections he was being "counseled" only and not having a JC. The same elder told me that he had already been counseled regarding 2 more of my previous babysitters and that the fathers of these girls had all been stumbled by the the elders lack of action. Those families DID leave our congregation but I had no idea of the reason WHY at the time. The elders never informed me of ANY of it. This all happened while I was till married to him and an active witness.

His now wife was "worldly" at the time that he hooked up with her so I don't know that the elders knew of her age. I had already moved out but was still legally married to him and they didn't inform me that I was scripturally free or anything. They've ignored me since I left unless it was to dig up dirt on me. I am very grateful to the elder that contacted me to inform me of all this, and hope that one day he wakes up and gets his family out of this destructive "religion".

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Onereason for a gentleman fader to stay reasonably associated...

by whataburger in

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friends

one congregation phenomenon i have observed in a variety of halls - older, not so model material brothers have a real chance with younger, attractive sisters - and often at the prodding of the young sisters parents and congregation members.. and if you have a little more scratch than the average jw brother (which isn't hard to do with a bunch of window washers), you really have an advantage.. a 40 year old man walking through the mall would have zero chances with an attractive 18+ year old girl.

but take that same man, who has been faithfully attending meetings and doing all the right things and put him in the kingdom hall and suddenly anything is possible.. sad, but true.. of course, who wants all the drama that comes with a girl that young - but it is something i have observed.. when i was in my early 20's and came back into "the truth", and i had a few dollars - and i had so many sisters tripping all over themselves for me... and the ages range from late teens to late 30's.

it was crazy.

Michelle365

I didn't spend too much time on it. I just feel so bad. I don't want her to have to go through all the shit I had to endure. I was so miserable for so long.

I have a feeling the marriage will end when she grows up a bit. He doesn't like strong independant women. He wants the young easy to control type. lol.

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Does the GB keep a list of all members of 144 000, alive and dead?

by african GB Member in

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i've always wondered how they keep track of all members,.

like keeping a list and then scratching off those who pass away.. for example:.

bro minimus.

Michelle365

What is the purpose of such a list? I am seriously asking. Wouldn't just serve as a stumbling block? It must be MILES long by now.

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Onereason for a gentleman fader to stay reasonably associated...

by whataburger in

jw
friends

one congregation phenomenon i have observed in a variety of halls - older, not so model material brothers have a real chance with younger, attractive sisters - and often at the prodding of the young sisters parents and congregation members.. and if you have a little more scratch than the average jw brother (which isn't hard to do with a bunch of window washers), you really have an advantage.. a 40 year old man walking through the mall would have zero chances with an attractive 18+ year old girl.

but take that same man, who has been faithfully attending meetings and doing all the right things and put him in the kingdom hall and suddenly anything is possible.. sad, but true.. of course, who wants all the drama that comes with a girl that young - but it is something i have observed.. when i was in my early 20's and came back into "the truth", and i had a few dollars - and i had so many sisters tripping all over themselves for me... and the ages range from late teens to late 30's.

it was crazy.

Michelle365

Married to the Mob-- She does seem to have some serious "daddy issues". I've tried talking to her about both the religion and my ex husbands tendency towards mental & emotional abuse and his manipulative ways. You know how it goes though, when teenagers are in love there is no talking them out of it!