Posts by Confuzzled

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I just want to say how much I hate the f***ing cult

by Confuzzled in

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i posted here a few times some months back about my jw bf, and i'm glad i did because i was on the fence about the whole thing.

i had to stop because the nature of his profession might have brought him here, and the details i had given it wouldn't have taken much to figure out who i was talking about.

i still lurk though, daily.. i hate this.

Confuzzled

Yes, many eyes would be opened, but not all 8(. I think its rule number #25 in the JW handbook: Research the questionable history, and all the warts in every other religion, but your own, because everything contrary to what the WTS puts out is false and written by apostates or people who don't know what they are talking about. Only active JWs in good standing can give a truthful history about the cult. 0_o.

Yeeeeaaahhhh I've heard thatone about 2000 times.

I think this dead horse I've beaten is decomposing and mummified. It may be time to bury it. Like it has been said, it is like a drug addict. They will only give it up when they realize on their own it is a problem.

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I just want to say how much I hate the f***ing cult

by Confuzzled in

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i posted here a few times some months back about my jw bf, and i'm glad i did because i was on the fence about the whole thing.

i had to stop because the nature of his profession might have brought him here, and the details i had given it wouldn't have taken much to figure out who i was talking about.

i still lurk though, daily.. i hate this.

Confuzzled

@VIII

I did think,"Could I go through the motions? I don't really having a problem w/clean living (i.e, not smoking, not drinking, Bible study, ehh I can wear a skirt once a week). I just at being at the mercy of the elders, and being treated like I'm stupid and can't read or understand the Gospel for myself, the raped Bible they use, Franz being an utter fraud, harboring pedophiles, the GB getting handed $$ hand over fist, judging ppl, destroying ppl, ect. ect. (OK EVERYTHING that has been mentioned on this board&evry other Proud Apostate Website, and book) There would be ways around it. Could I do it, but keep my identity? As long as I know it's a lie, I'd be alright, right?"

I luckily have a family who would call me on my bullshit, and there iis always an opportunity for Stockholm Syndrome. Thats sad I actually thought that and sometimes still think that. I wonder if other people have just thrown up their hands and drank the Kool-Aid just to keep the peace (could you even drink the Kool-Aid, if your not annointed? 0_o Trying to be funny.)

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I just want to say how much I hate the f***ing cult

by Confuzzled in

jw
friends

i posted here a few times some months back about my jw bf, and i'm glad i did because i was on the fence about the whole thing.

i had to stop because the nature of his profession might have brought him here, and the details i had given it wouldn't have taken much to figure out who i was talking about.

i still lurk though, daily.. i hate this.

Confuzzled

Thanks. It's dumfounding. I cannot believe that he is doing, and saying, exactly what everybody says he would. I jokingly asked him if they gave him a handbook on what to say and do, and then I remembered, yeah, they do. Hundreds. He is being trained by some of the best sales ppl in the world. I told him I have no doubt the ppl in the pews honestly believe they are doing God's Work, but look at the big picture. Wasted oxygen. I hate his cult identity. He thinks he either has to be 100% good, or 100% bad. But, he doesn't have to be 100% good yet because he isn't baptized. WTF? I can read all the books, quote all the statistics, make the paralells between JWs, FLDS, Children of God, and Scientology, but it's a waste of time. I've planted all the recommended "seedling" questions, but these "good people" have got their meat hooks in him. I asked him how long it will take before he limits contact w/me, before his Bible Study teacher tells him I am demonized, and a stumbling block, or a bad asssociation. How long will it be before they have Sister GoodChristian picked out for him to date. They know about me. He says they never will, but threatens to limit our contact when we really get into it, like hes done recently to somebody else (yeah, hypocrite, much?). He tells them everything I say. I say tell them I am a supporter of the vast Apostate Army. He wants me to talk to his Bible teacher, I tell him I refuse to talk to an indocrinated cult member, I cannot argue with him, he will be better at because HE IS TRAINED in debate, and has memorized answers, and could probably sell water to a drowneding man, and no matter what I say or present, you will believe him anyway. It's the hamster wheel effect. I know you all have heard this story before, it's almost laughable. Ever see the movie Groundhog Day? I read the posts here from other people in my suituation. I'm in for a world of hurt. I found myself actually thinking how long could I possibly live a lie just to avoid all this, but I can't. I've read to much, seen to much for myself, and he'd know I was lying.

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I just want to say how much I hate the f***ing cult

by Confuzzled in

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friends

i posted here a few times some months back about my jw bf, and i'm glad i did because i was on the fence about the whole thing.

i had to stop because the nature of his profession might have brought him here, and the details i had given it wouldn't have taken much to figure out who i was talking about.

i still lurk though, daily.. i hate this.

Confuzzled

I posted here a few times some months back about my JW BF, and I'm glad I did because I was on the fence about the whole thing. I had to stop because the nature of his profession might have brought him here, and the details I had given it wouldn't have taken much to figure out who I was talking about. I still lurk though, daily.

I HATE this. He's getting back into it, and all we do is fight. I hate that he does and says exactly what the script tells him. I hate that my rebel is turning into a mindless drone. I hate the fact that if I handed him documents w/the Watchtower blacked out, or the letterhead cut off, he would be the first to cry criminals. I hate the fact that a person that smart and independent feels the only way he can be a good person is through the rules and regulations of a publishing company. I hate the fact he refuses to see that God's Love is freely given, not something you have to earn. I scream at him, and tell him "one day, I pray you wake up, before it's too late. It's a cult."

You will all tell me to cut and run, but circumstances have changed, and I will be involved w/him in some way, shape or form for the rest of my life (lets just leave it at that, details, you see). I just needed to vent, sorry. It's infuriating.

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I didn't disappear

by Confuzzled in

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i was here a few weeks back and i do continue to lurk and read everyones posts, but i chose to quit posting myself because i read a lot of the archives and i was horrified to find out that people actually read and match up stories to turn into the elders at the hall, and cause havoc in members, and non members lives.

i felt i had given away to many distinctive details about the person in my life, so i decided to quit postiing for mine and their sakes.

someone in another thread mentioned me so i decided to pop my head up..

Confuzzled

The entire first thread I ever posted I'd love to have removed LOL! I was so totally creeped out by what those people do......Unreal! Further research into the person in my life's cong has revealed that his particular Hall is very liberal, so I doubt Sister CantMindHerOwn is lurking here, but I'm just being safe.

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I didn't disappear

by Confuzzled in

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i was here a few weeks back and i do continue to lurk and read everyones posts, but i chose to quit posting myself because i read a lot of the archives and i was horrified to find out that people actually read and match up stories to turn into the elders at the hall, and cause havoc in members, and non members lives.

i felt i had given away to many distinctive details about the person in my life, so i decided to quit postiing for mine and their sakes.

someone in another thread mentioned me so i decided to pop my head up..

Confuzzled

Hi all. I was here a few weeks back and I do continue to lurk and read everyones posts, but I chose to quit posting myself because I read a lot of the archives and I was horrified to find out that people actually read and match up stories to turn into the elders at the Hall, and cause havoc in members, and non members lives. I felt I had given away to many distinctive details about the person in my life, so I decided to quit postiing for mine and their sakes. Someone in another thread mentioned me so I decided to pop my head up.

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A freshly minted Assembly Hall, as seen through the eyes of a free man

by sd-7 in

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the program was day 2 of the circuit assembly, but we'd been planning to catch the special assembly day (commonly referred to as sad even by me before i woke up).

i always felt sad after the program every time.

the new assembly hall is gargantuan.

Confuzzled

I see myself in your story, as well as a lot of others who have shared their experiences with me about being the lover of a JW. I have this honest belief that the ppl who fill those pews are honest, loving souls who really thing they are doing the work of the Lord, and then ppl exploit their guilt and desire to good by God, and others.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

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Not, an anthropologist, started studying, had to quit school, but I still love the field and have a layman's interest in it.........His response to my History degree and interest in the field were "People manipulate history to meet their own ends," and I now realize where the mentality was coming from. I want to strangle whoever warped his brain at this point, and took advantage of his single mother when he was a child and brought his large family into this.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

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Satanus, I confronted him on this teaching, and he believes God will understand because of all the good he does for other ppl in his profession. I told him I thought police officers couldn't be baptized, and he said they changed the rules......Hmmmmm.................... I'm praying that his independent, lone wolf nature will eventually see the forest through the trees. But another part of me believes that because of his questionable past before he became a cop that he is just looking for somebody to punish him, not what he says, that he's looking for some peace. I pray God sends him the peace he's looking for before he gets settled into a Hall and they prey on his guilt. He is a really, really good person. I know I'm buying into a boatload of heartache, but for the time being Im not giving up on him. That would be very un-Christian. I'm going to order those books you guys suggested.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

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Drew that's exactly what he's doing. He wants me to turn to cult members to get answers. He really doesn't have them, and I wonder what he'd think if he really knew what "Theocratic Warfare Strategy" was. He's a police officer in a very, very bad area (can't say where, too obvious who i am talking about should he find this), and has seen murder, child abuse, and the horrors of society, and I just don't understand why he can't see it going on in the cult. I'd rather talk to a Professor of Religion or Sociologist with expertise on these matters, non brainwashed sheep.. Although it doesn't take a master's degree to see what the hell is going on. My criticisms of the 5 translators frauds that translated the JW Bible, were only met with him trying to read me what I guess was the prologue to his Bible. "I don't want to hear you f***ing propaganda!" only got me an angry hang-up.