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  Millionaire Witnesses WTF lol?!

  by Alostpuppydog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.

  it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?

  i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.

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  JeffT

  The nicest elder I ever knew was also the wealthiest person in the congregation. Really a nice guy, who stepped down for a while because he couldn't take the BS from the other elders. They talked him in to coming back because everybody liked him and he made things run smoothly.
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  Yeah, having ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times spouting Democratic talking points 24/7 wasn't enough.
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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  It works both ways - we can't have people forced to associate with us but in return, we are not forced to associate with them.

  This.

  If you can make them talk to you, there will be nothing to stop them from coming to your house and preaching to you for twelve hours non-stop.
  
  
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  One thing that's strange is how many issues seem to have a correlation even though they shouldn't ...

  Good points Simon. Try saying that you think that BOTH the right to marry whomever you want AND the right to own a gun are protected by the Constitution. I keep running into people who seem to think holding both of those ideas is wrong, or impossible. Or that believing one implies agreement with some extreme position. For example saying that I believe one has a general right to own a gun doesn't mean I'm opposed to background checks.

  We've created this horrid all or nothing binary division that makes discussion and compromise a thing of the past. The politicians on both sides won't settle for anything less than all of everything they want. Increasingly, the result is nobody gets anything.
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  Can Trump appoint his sons to his Cabinet?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-cabinet_us_5824c2b2e4b05cf6a6435663.

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  Keep in mind, that law is a reaction to JFK's appointment of his brother as AG in 1961. I was very young, but I can remember the controversy about it.
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  I mean, why should a little pussy grabbing get in the way of becoming President right?

  That was asked and answered during Bill Clinton's administration.
  (Sorry, I couldn't resist. I have a longer response to this thread I might write later, right now I have to go to work.)
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  Pyramid Schemes

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.

  they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.

  you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.

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  Cyberjesus, some questions about the MLM you're in

  1) What is the percentage breakdown of inside to outside sales? Meaning how much of the company total sales are derived from the marketing team.

  2) How much of total revenue is generated by conventions, sales meetings, seminars, etc?

  3) Percentage of sales is samples and marketing materials?
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  HLC and privacy rights

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago i used to work at a hospital.

  when my family members would receive treatment at this place, often times they would ask me if i could look up information for them regarding their health.

  i always had to tell them that privacy laws did not allow me to bypass the hospital's administration.

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  I work in a 28 day residential recovery center. We are not allowed to give out any information about a patient, unless they have authorized us, in writing, to give information to that individual. Violating that rule leads to instantaneous dismissal. I'm not sure if that's HIPPA, Washington State law, or company policy; I'm not going to do it.
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  1000 Years is Like 1 Day?

  by Sorry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone else hear about this.

  as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.

  quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).

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  So if one day = 1000 years, then the 2,520 days from Daniel = 2,520,000 years, Making Armageddon due around 2,519,393 CE.

  Edited to add, I'm off by a year because I forgot the no zero year thing.
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  Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.

  conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.

  although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..

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  My wife was mentally out of the JW's before I was, she had more religious (nonjw) background than I did and knew what they were teaching wasn't in the Bible. She'd joined due to family influence. When that disappeared she was done with it.

  We joined another church when we left, she ended up working there for something close to twenty years (teaching preschool), but ended up losing the job because she wouldn't knuckle under to the men running the place.