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  Were visits to the library an important part of your childhood?

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, fellow bibliophiles:.

  i remember how sad i was, as a little child, when our beloved carnegie library was razed (unsafe, structurally).

  the same tragedy occurred when we moved to a new town and that similar architectural treasure was demolished to put up a new and gleaming building of steel and glass.

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  JeffT

  I wasn't raised JW. Trips to the library were a regular thing as far back as I can remember. I just looked it up, I don't think the library we went to has changed at all. By the time we moved I think I'd read everything they had on astronomy, mythology, and WWII, plus a lot of fiction relating to those subjects.

  

  Even after I became a JW I continued going to the library. By that time I was working for Washington State University and had access to something over two million volumes. I never looked up JW's. Go figure. I still go to the library frequently.
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  Stealing From The Worldwide Work Fund.

  by Charles Gillette in

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  all the money paid out by the watchtower to the child abuse law suits comes from the worldwide work fund or the contributions from the monies given for the kingdom hall real estate.

  so,when we were actively involved donating funds for this purpose,and the watchtower used those funds for purposes other than the worldwide work are they not guilty of stealing funds that were donated for jehovah's kingdom.

  can anything legal be done about this?

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  JeffT

  Have they ever defined what they meant by "the world wide work?" I don't believe they have. If so, it could be taken to mean "whatever it takes to run the Watchtower" which could include paying out lawsuits, as a cost of doing business.
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  Did man really go to the moon?

  by atomant in

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  l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

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  Simple proof that we made it to the moon:

  The whole thing was driven by competition between the USSR and USA. The live TV shots originated on the moon. It would seem obvious that the Russians would have had a directional antenna pointed at the moon. If those TV images had not been transmitted from the moon, they would have screamed at the tops of their lungs. The fact that they didn't is proof we got there and have the TV pictures to prove it.
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  Hollow earth

  by Jrjw in

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  i thought the flat earth conspiracy theory was strange but ive just read an article about a new conspiracy theory that the earth is hollow and that its a paradise there and 8 foot tall intellectually advanced aliens live there who send space ships out every so often to check on mankind.

  apparently lost viking colonies and nazis that fled there after world war 2 are living there immortally 🤣🤣 .

  this world just gets better and better 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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  It's not a new theory, it started out in the late 1600's; and had a rational basis at the time as it was an attempt to explain movement of the magnetic poles.
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  Name A Problem That Nationalism Has Solved

  by Fred Franztone in

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  are there any?.

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  None. Nationalism creates an "us" and "them"

  Nonsense. "Us" and "them" preceded nationalism by several thousand years. Before we had nations, we had city-states, before that we had tribes. Medieval Europe wasn't all that great a place to live.
  
  
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

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  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  I figured out what bothers me the most about this: it plays right into the Watchtower's narrative about "apostates" We're all greedy and out to attract followers to ourselves so we can take their money. We don't need to give them ammunition to use against us.
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  Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!

  by darkspilver in

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  2017 grand totals.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .

  number of lands reporting: 240. .

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  Interesting. 284,000 baptized and average publishers only goes up by 110,000. What happened to everybody else? And it only took 7000 publisher hours per baptism. That's the equivalent of 3.5 people working full time jobs to get one person, and neither of those sets of numbers takes into account born ins.

  What a waste of time.
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  143rd Gilead Graduates cRiNGeWoRThY Song

  by pale.emperor in

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  quite possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've seen them do yet.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tk88rstv6o.

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  I only got through the first verse.

  I didn't get that far.

  
  
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  Do you (or did you) have much of a social life as a Jehovahs Witness.

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i ask this question out of interest, because as a jehovahs witness for some 26 years, i have always felt that there is an 'all work, no play' culture within the organisation.

  the organisation doesn't promote social gatherings.

  i could count on one hand each year how many get togethers we have had.

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  The first congregation I was in (1973-1982) was VERY active socially. We had dinners with other people probably at least twice a month. Between our congregation and two or three others in the same circuit there was a sizable group of young singles (all in our twenties) that hung together. We never got in trouble for it. Congregation picnics were a regular feature in the summer. I think the social life was one of the things that attracted me to the religion.
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  What Do You Think A CIA Or NSA Security File On The Watchtower And Tract Society And It's Governing Body Would Say?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i'm sure that a top secret security clearance not very high up the chain of command would show a ton of information, .

  i mean everything that happens on the internet and on computers i'm sure is assessable to the us intelligence community, why would the government not pass up an opportunity to spy on it's population and run all internet data through homeland security to protect it's interest both home and abroad, realistically thinking that is.. so with this in mind what would a highly classified report look like?

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  Those agencies are tasked with gathering information about foreign threats to the US government. I can't think of any good reason why either one should be investigating the WTBS. If they have been, they're probably breaking the law.