I smart lawyer would cite the fact that we're all here as proof that WTBS doesn't control people's minds. Those that don't like being part of the religion can, obviously, leave if they want to.
Posts by JeffT
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16Can We Sue The Watchtower For Mental and Emotional Harm Do To Its Mind Control Techniques
by Humphry ini think there is enough information available for a case to be made of the type of emotional and mental harm one is exposed to.
get some good expert witnesses could work??
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I have just watched the second episode of Chenobyl
by smiddy3 inas i said i have only seen two episodes so far and by what i have seen and what limited information i have with that and the japanese nuclear accident problem i know of i don`t want any nuclear reactors anywhere here on australian soil .. i think it has only been by pot luck that a disaster of major proportions has been avoided.. and that is not good enough .. we have had two warnings with chenobyl and japan ,what will the third one tell us ?.
i would appreciate your comments.
this should also be on social /politics .
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LV, I suspected that's what you did. I'd love to see The Hermitage, Years ago I took a class in Russian history (I minored in history). Fascinating place.
From stories I've heard from friends EVERY Aeroflot flight looks like its traveling between refugee camps (and may not make it to the next one.)
I do believe we must approach nuclear power with a clear head and a commitment to follow established procedure as in "don't turn the ****ing safety system off."
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I have just watched the second episode of Chenobyl
by smiddy3 inas i said i have only seen two episodes so far and by what i have seen and what limited information i have with that and the japanese nuclear accident problem i know of i don`t want any nuclear reactors anywhere here on australian soil .. i think it has only been by pot luck that a disaster of major proportions has been avoided.. and that is not good enough .. we have had two warnings with chenobyl and japan ,what will the third one tell us ?.
i would appreciate your comments.
this should also be on social /politics .
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JeffT
There are reasonable concerns, and reasonble responses to those concerns regarding the safety of nuclear power. If we are going to be serious about climate change we need nuclear power to bridge the gap until better systems are created. Either that or we can sit in the dark.
We have safe ways of disposing of the waste (glassification) and the volume of material involved is small compared to say, the chemical industry. Blondie, I've studied technology issues for a long time (even when I was a JW). I've never heard a serious proposal to send it into space.
The lesson of Chernobyl is "don't turn off the safety systems." The plant blew up because the guy in charge was an idiot - as well portrayed in the series.
LV101, I have no idea what you saw in 1981-1982. The Chernobyl event was in 1986.
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Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower
by JeffT ini did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.
i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.
so much for their ability to see into the future.
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JeffT
I don't think anything is going to "take down the Watchtower." Most of it's adherents are ruled by cognitive dissonance. This quote has no effect on them, but it may be useful in making a few think, and it certainly shows those with no JW background what is wrong with the cult.
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Actual good news from fifty years ago today
by JeffT inthe who released "tommy" may 23, 1969. i still think it was one of the best albums ever.
since i left the borg i've also though that the salvation through pinball meme was a good analogy for trying to sell enough watchtowers to win god's favor.
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JeffT
The Who released "Tommy" May 23, 1969. I still think it was one of the best albums ever. Since I left the Borg I've also though that the salvation through pinball meme was a good analogy for trying to sell enough Watchtowers to win God's favor.
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Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower
by JeffT ini did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.
i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.
so much for their ability to see into the future.
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As pointed out above, speculation about the future wouldn't be so terrible if they kept it to speculation. But people read this (and with the encouragement of the WTBS) make life altering decisions based on it.
Smiddy, I don't expect to see the Watchtower go away anytime soon. They some how manage to pull a new rabbit out of their hat everytime the old one dies.
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Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower
by JeffT ini did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.
i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.
so much for their ability to see into the future.
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I did not have any connection to JW's when they published this, about two weeks before I graduated from High school. I'm now on Medicare and collecting social security. So much for their ability to see into the future.
*** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this
present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy
indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that
observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no
means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never
fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college
education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a
specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the
way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's
prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not
require such long periods of additional schooling… True, those who do not understand where
we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really
practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working
toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order? -
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Please don't give them new ideas!
by Lost in the fog inspotted this question on another site.
my first thought was "please don't give the local elders another excuse to badger those leaving.
" mind you we haven't signed non-disclosure agreements like this person did.. https://www.cultnews101.com/2019/05/can-i-be-sued-by-former-cult-i-was.html?m=1 .
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JeffT
It seems to me it would be difficult to enforce an NDA when you're largest activity is spreading "the message."
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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JeffT
The issue is not whether or not DS has a right to speak anonymously. The question before the court is about limits on their ability to use some one else's words. I'm all in favor of fair use, as a writer I support copyright law. This will need to go to court for a decision.
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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JeffT
Contrary to popular opinion the courts (both attorney's and judges) have to work within the framework of the law. Attorney must stick to the facts of the case (in this instance copyright law). Judges have to stick to deciding the issue in front of them. For example if I get rear ended by a JW and sue him because he dosen't have any insurance, I can't attack him in court over his religion. Also keep in mind before the actual trial, attorney's do a lot of jockeying for position. That's what is going on here, nothing has been decided yet in relation to the actual case.
Incidently, I'm pretty sure you don't have any legal right to hide your identity if you choose to go public with information. People fighting the WTBS should keep that in mind, and remember that the WTBS sees all of us as an existential threat. They might be right about that.