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  Series

  by Berengaria in

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  2. entertainment

  don't post much lately, but wondering what folks are watching.

  i'm enjoying the heck out of "penny dreadful", "outlander", and "grace and frankie".

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  JeffT

  The only series I watch with any regularity is reruns of the original CSI. I work swing shift so five nights a week I'm working during prime time. From what I've seen, I don't think I'm missing anything. On weekends I watch movies and read books. I turned off the news about a year ago, its done wonders for my mood and outlook on life.
  
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  "would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.

  "if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".

  the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.

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  At least here in the US drinking water DOES have poison -chlorine - in it. You wouldn't want to drink it if it didn't.
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  Why so few XJWs online?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  not too long ago, i posted a topic where i pointed out that there are about 1 million xjws alive right now.

  that number only represented the disfellowshipped ones... didn't account for those who had become publishers and left or anyone else who got hurt by that group by proxy.

  so, why are there so few of them online?

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  My wife is a good example of an ex-XJW. When we first left (in 1988!) she was active in the xjw community. She spoke with me at the church we joined, and similar activities. As time went by she found better things to do, she taught preschool and ran therapy sessions for children of divorced parents. Now she's involved with various human rights groups. I think she's doing the absolute best thing to stick it to the WTBS: she's enjoying a real life.
  
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  Federal lawsuit says fingerprint check is “mark of the devil,” baring former school bus driver entry into heaven.

  by no password in

  1. social
  2. current

  citing the book of revelation - federal lawsuit says fingerprint check is “mark of the devil,” baring former school bus driver entry into heaven.. .

  http://www.altoonamirror.com/news/local-news/2017/01/former-bus-driver-files-lawsuit/.

  former bus driver files lawsuit.

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  JeffT

  If being a school bus driver requires getting fingerprinted, and she doesn't want to be fingerprinted, she needs to look for some other kind of work.
  
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  Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for information:.

  court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.

  keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.

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  JeffT

  The JW patient died because the machine used, essential to his life to adherence to WTBS doctrine, failed.

  Fixed it for you.
  

  
  
  
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  Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for information:.

  court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.

  keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.

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  JeffT

  There is a legal concept "De Minimis"

  from free Dictionary: An abbreviated form of the Latin Maxim de minimis non curat lex, "the law cares not for small things." A legal doctrine by which a court refuses to consider trifling matters.

  The law doesn't care if JW's believe they're going to heaven, paradise on earth, or Disneyland. It's irrelevant to the case. So is discussion of how the machine came to be contaminated. Legally and medically, the root cause of this incident is the refusal of JW's to accept medically necessary blood transfusions. Absent that issue, this medically procedure would have, in all probability, ended better than it did. That is the issue before the court.
  
  
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  Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for information:.

  court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.

  keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.

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  What dubstepped says. Medical personnel need to keep up with advances in medicine, not changes in Watchtower theology.
  
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  Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for information:.

  court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.

  keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.

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  JeffT

  Wonder what was the details to why the machine was deemed contaminated??

  I just read most of the full document. The suction tube hit the floor, at which point it probably sucked in contaminants or bacteria which would make the whole machine unusable. The doctors believed that they had to keep the blood moving through the machine at all times to meet the JW's requirements. (I don't know if this is still true, these machines were just coming into use about the time I left. It was true then.) So they shut the machine down. Had this occurred during surgery on a non-JW, they would have given a unit or two of blood, and there wouldn't have been a problem.

  So the no blood policy kills another JW.
  
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  Watchtower and Emoji's - your thoughts

  by Tallon in

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  2. beliefs

  on the jw.org website, the watchtower is sending out a strong warning with regard to emoji's & flirting.. my personal view is that the org is now trying to micro-manage just about every aspect of people's lives!.

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/worksheets/friendly-or-flirtatious/.

  ps: 'quotes are from julia, ellen and tara.

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  JeffT

  My personal view is that the Org is now trying to micro-manage just about every aspect of people's lives!

  Fixed it for you.
  

  
  
  
  
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  When The Persecution Comes

  by cofty in

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  2. scandals

  when i was young everybody used to fantasise constantly about how brave we would all need to be "when the persecution comes".

  we worried about what "they" would do to us and how we would never talk or betray other jws.

  psychologically it was a damaging environment for children; but maybe that's another topic.. who would have thought that when it finally came it would take the form of being sued for protecting pedophiles.

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  JeffT

  I actually feel bad for the many innocent elderly long-term JWs who must be feeling betrayed and bewildered.

  When I became a JW in 1973 I thought the congregation contained a number of sincere, decent, people. More than a few were reasonably intelligent and really trying to serve God. I still thought that way when I left in 1988, but had added "deluded" to that list. They all thought the end was coming "soon." I wonder what those people think now when they turn out the lights at night.

  Deep inside, it must hurt knowing you gave your life to a lie. Issues like pedophiles are salt in the wound. I feel sorry for them.