1Cor.4:2-4. Is he just speaking to the 'holy ones' or is this meant for all of us? If just for the holy ones, are the Hebrews sciptures just meant for the Israelites, the Greek scruiptures for the Holy ones and anything left for the rest of us? If so, what about 2 Timothy.3:16-17.
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4Pauls words, meant for who?
by lulu in.
1cor.4:2-4. is he just speaking to the 'holy ones' or is this meant for all of us?
if just for the holy ones, are the hebrews sciptures just meant for the israelites, the greek scruiptures for the holy ones and anything left for the rest of us?
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Awaiting punishment.?
by lulu inyesterday november 3rd my husband and i had a visit from three elders( grand jury) as we had given them proof of the affliation of the wtbts to the un.they wanted us to recant and say the society was telling the truth (same old thing only for libary pass not ngo) and to say that the un were liars(all 30,000 who work there, apparently jw's also work there).
when we refused to compromise our integrity after 21/2 hours they departed saying they would let us know their decision!!.
we were obviously wrong when we thought only jehovah was the judge, so there you go, we were wrong again!
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lulu
Yesterday November 3rd my husband and I had a visit from three elders( Grand Jury) as we had given them proof of the affliation of the WTBTS to the UN.They wanted us to recant and say the Society was telling the truth (same old thing only for libary pass not NGO) and to say that the UN were liars(all 30,000 who work there, apparently JW's also work there). when we refused to compromise our integrity after 21/2 hours they departed saying they would let us know their decision!!. We were obviously wrong when we thought only Jehovah was the judge, so there you go, we were wrong again!!They had previously sent all our documentation to the WTBTS in Australia and received a reply, but refused to let us see it or have a copy. My husbands reaction was totally different from mine as he thought it was a hoot. He intends he said to appeal any decision on the grounds he doesn't acknowledge anyones authority over him without his consent. He wants another 'good time'. I think the decision will be 'Siberia' ,he hopes so ,as then he can concentrate completely on his yacht.
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King Solomon
by Cicatrix inokay, maybe i'm ignorant, but i can't stop thinking about this.. it's recorded in the bible that jehovah gave solomon great wisdom.
so why did he eventually turn away from jehovah and start serving the gods of his foreign born wives?it would seem to me that that increased wisdom from jehovah would make him more likely to continue to serve jehovah faithfully.. this also brings to mind the account of adam and eve and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.. i considered this from the angle that solomon used his free will and chose to oppose jehovah.
but is free will really "free" if you are punished with death for disobeying the creator???.
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lulu
Dear, dear Cicatrix, I am so sorry if I have offended you. You have obviously been through a hard time with the elders. Me too. Although not being disfellowshipped at the moment but being 'shunned' ( because of showing the elders all my documents of the Society 's affliation with the U.N.All discussions to me are just an exchange of views and so interesting. I was brought up to have opinions and have no hesitation in expressing them( must be backed up with facts though). To go back to Solomon, Jehovah said if you will obey my rules you will benefit yourself, if not what you sow you will reap, so no problem. By the way, nowhere in the bible does it say Jehovah needs or indeed wants a human organization or a GB. Especially ones who can and do control all aspects of a persons life.
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Mormons ELECT their ELDERS
by refiners fire in"relief society study guide.
" 1989 version.
article: "by common consent".
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lulu
What do you think the JW's do. It is nepotism, they vote one another in, how do you think the paedophilias managed to get such a stronghold? They Vote one another in? So what is the problem?According to the scriptures the 'congregation' as a whole have to appoint someone, and it is only a job. Only Jesus is the mediator, no-one else is needed nor should be.
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King Solomon
by Cicatrix inokay, maybe i'm ignorant, but i can't stop thinking about this.. it's recorded in the bible that jehovah gave solomon great wisdom.
so why did he eventually turn away from jehovah and start serving the gods of his foreign born wives?it would seem to me that that increased wisdom from jehovah would make him more likely to continue to serve jehovah faithfully.. this also brings to mind the account of adam and eve and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.. i considered this from the angle that solomon used his free will and chose to oppose jehovah.
but is free will really "free" if you are punished with death for disobeying the creator???.
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lulu
Jehovah can do whatever he likes, when he likes and to whom . Soloman knew exactly what he was doing. The choice is yours, we are not puppets.
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no dates in bible.
by lulu insome time ago i came across on this site, so-called prophesies that the wtbts made .i.e.
a very good argument was given that this was absolute rubbish, obviously nowhere in the bible does it give dates, is there anyone out there who remembers it.
if so, please tell me where to find it again.
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lulu
Some time ago I came across on this site, so-called prophesies that the WTBTS made .i.e. 1914,1925,1975 etc etc. A very good argument was given that this was absolute rubbish, obviously nowhere in the bible does it give dates, is there anyone out there who remembers it. If so, please tell me where to find it again. Regards to all.
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more excuses, other than libary card?
by lulu in.
i have heard that the wt are offering other excuses other than wanting a libary czard.
does anyone know of any, and where if so can i get the information.
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lulu
I have heard that the WT are offering other excuses other than wanting a libary czard. Does anyone know of any, and where if so can I get the information.
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Sheila Bowen's Letter To the GB!
by Ranchette ini knocked on the locked door of the appeal hearing last night after they had dismissed bill and told the six elders that i had something to say to them and told them it was summed up it a letter i had written.i then asked them if i could read it to them and they could have their own copy when i was finished.they said that would be fine.. here it is.
governing body,.
25 columbia heights.
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lulu
The ancient kings killed the messengers. Today in 2002 messengers are still being killed. Wishing you and your husband all the very best.
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Another Religion Scandal - Newsweek Letter
by Thirdson inthis was in the letters section of july 8, 2002 newsweek (page 16) following their article on jws.
another religion faces scandal
thank you for your coverage of the sex-abuse scandal taking place within the watchtower bible and tract society ("witness to shame," june 24).
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lulu
Like you I still believe in the theology, but after the WTBTS affliated itself with
the U.N. ( after everything they have told us in the past) I no longer believe that
this organization would still have Jehovahs blessing. Plus of course, the horrific news of the wide spread victims of sexual abuse.
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How do YOU deal with it??
by bad_associashun inhello all- recently joined, had some probs getting logged in, but here at last.... anyway, the question is: for those that can relate, when your heart feels heavy from the hurt, pain, regret, sorrow, bitterness, anger... and the lost years, stolen time, forsaken friends, broken relationships, wasted energies, abandonment, and lost love weighs on you --> caused by wt org.
stress.... how do you get past it?
what heals you, brings you relief, rescues you from total worthless feelings of inadequacy, comforts your wounds, keeps you from jumping on the train tracks?.
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lulu
I live in Australia, and there does not appear to be a site dealiong with the scandalpf the U.N. Can you help, all the (friends) do not want to know about ANY scandalous event.