Yes, isn't it strange how Jehovah God's One Only True Religion on Earth that claims their MAIN PURPOSE is to spread THE TRUTH, does not have an E-Mail Address on their Website?
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forward-moving organisation
by ballistic inthe 1983 year book reported that.... to assist his dedicated people to accomplish this twofold publishing work, jehovah has provided his forward-moving organization
with many high-speed offset printing presses as well as modern bookbinding equipment.
he has also equipped his people with the latest technology in the field of computer phototypesetting.
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Letter to Presiding Overseer
by DevonMcBride ina non-witness friend of mine sent the following letter to the local kingdom hall in her area.
this should send a strong message to the elders on how the public feels.. devon .
dear mr. xxxxx,.
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I know that info has already been posted on this Site, but I'm gonna try and make it all on one Thread.
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Letter to Presiding Overseer
by DevonMcBride ina non-witness friend of mine sent the following letter to the local kingdom hall in her area.
this should send a strong message to the elders on how the public feels.. devon .
dear mr. xxxxx,.
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That was just a really, Really, REALLY GOOD LETTER!
outnfree said:
Maybe some entrepreneur will make an information kit including all of the referenced information for distribution to like-minded citizens?
I'll try to work on posting Watchtower Quotes and the Proof about the U.N. and Navy connections very soon.
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Disfellowshipping Procedure Changes
by WTLies inhas there been any changes as of late in the way the judical committe operates?
i was just in email with a dub that assured me that the elders no longer make decision to disfellowship but instead it's made at the society.
the elders only recommend.
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Here is a Huge List of Quotes about Disfellowshipping, if you are interested (If it is a big important case like Bowen's, then the GB is definitely the decision-maker):
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35751&site=3
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JW's in Slovenia: TV program transcript!
by izobcenec inthe reporter: will you show me the new manual?
the reporter: would you have accepted the transfusion?
janko novak, jw spokesman: i know none of such cases (that anybody died for rejecting blood) .
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This is Great!! Thanks for Posting this Transcript!
DJ said:
Ok. I got the book and I've been reading it..yuk. Can you please tell me the name of the chapter where the quote is, please? It is 2:00 in the morning here and I am too tired to read this whole book!
Thanks for all of your help!!! DJ
Unit 5 is the part with all the information about Disfellowshipping and Sins and Punishment.
Some very interesting reading in that Unit.
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Silent Witnesses: The fallout begins!
by ozziepost instrange things are happening here in oz after the "silent witnesses" was seen on the sunday programme today.
long-serving elders here in oz are getting unsettled already it seems.
without compromising certain individuals, we can say that phone calls to certain participants are being received.
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Tinkerbell said:
Ozzie, it's good to see them scurm!!!! If this doesn't open peoples eyes, then I don't know what will!!!! I sent some emails to my non j.w. siblins telling them about Silentlambs. I'm sure it went through my family like a wild fire! Dissapointingly no one wants to inquire about it to me. I was surprised how offencive they all have seemed to take it. I had one brother that email me and told me to stop sending him things that were against Jehovah's Witness!!!! *He's been d.f.ed for years!!! Can you believe it! My other siblins are avoiding me like the pleage. I swear, I think, they think, if they say anything negitive about the org, they would be showing disrespect to my deceased mother. For the life of me, I do NOT understand why they wont open their eyes and see the WTS for what it really is! In stead I feel they think I'm trying to start trouble or something within the family. I simple wanted my family to be aware of the abuse that was going on in the congergation. I don't know why it's so hard for them to see, hell, they know that I experienced it first hand from my first husband and nothing was EVER done about it.
I've got an idea for you to help your family see the truth about the Pedophile Policy:
You can ask your family members to Call up Bethel, and ask them these 3 questions:
1: Do Elders require 2 eye-witnesses for child molestation in order to Disfellowship or Sanction the accused molester?
2: Is it true that if the victim (or the victim's parents) tries to warn other children or parents about the molester, that the child (or the child's parents) can be Disfellowshipped, Shunned, or otherwise Disciplined for "Slander against an Innocent Brother" because the child did not have 2 eye-witnesses?
3: Is it true that, if there are NOT 2 Eye-Witnesses, and the child has been molested by her father or mother, then the Elders will send the child back home without doing anything else?
When one of my family members called Bethel, the Bethel person said YES to the first 2 questions! (My family member didn't ask the 3rd Question)
Here is a list of Bethel Phone Numbers:
Bethel Phone Numbers:
718-560-5600 (Media Number) (Listed on Official Watchtower Media Website)
718-560-5000 (Public Number) (Listed on Official Watchtower Media Website)
845-306-1100 (Patterson, New York Number) (Listed on Official Watchtower Media Website)
718-560-5101 (J.R. Brown, Watchtower's Main Spokesmans Number) (Listed on Official Watchtower Media Website)
1-866-388-2222 (Toll-Free Public Phone Number from their New TV Commercial) (Listed on Official Watchtower Media Website)
718-625-3600 (From Yahoo Yellow Pages)
516-481-2865 (From Yahoo Yellow Pages)
845-744-6000 (Bethel Farms) (From Yahoo Yellow Pages)
973-696-6777 (From Yahoo Yellow Pages)
215-389-2923 (From Yahoo Yellow Pages)
718-560-5333 (Joel Gott's Number, the person who registered the Official Website's Domain Name) (From a Domain Name Registering Website)
Hope this helps
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Transcript of Oz TV Program SILENT WITNESS
by Jang insimon thomas: i think all of them could have been saved.
" and i'd heard this, obviously, and i approached the elder that my father spoke to and i said, "look, my brother's telling the truth because it's also happened to me.
simon thomas: that elder that we spoke to at that time was john wingate.
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Thanks for Posting the Transcript!!!
May God crush this criminal bunch.
AMEN!
He most certainly will crush anyone who has done these vile and evil things to children (and adults for that matter), unless they repent (which seems doubtful).
The Watchtower Society seems to love to use Matthew Chapter 18, Verses 15-17.
Well, they need to back up a few Verses and read the following Scriptures which ABSOLUTELY CONDEMNS THE SOCIETY!
Matthew 18:5: And whoever will receive one such little child in My Name receives Me.
Matthew 18:6: But whoever causes one of these little children believing in Me to stumble, it is better for him that a millstone be hung on his neck, and he be sunk in the depth of the sea.Matthew 18:10: See that you do not despise one of these little children, for I tell you that their angels in Heaven continually look on the face of My Father in Heaven.
Matthew 18:11: For the Son of Man has Come to save that which was lost.
Matthew 18:12: What do you think? If any man has a hundred sheep, and one of them strays away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains, and having gone he seeks the one having strayed?
Matthew 18:13: And if he happens to find it, truly I say to you that he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine not having gone astray.
Matthew 18:14: So it is not the will of your Father in Heaven that one of these little children should perish.(MAIN POINT I AM TRYING TO SHOW: IF YOU HURT A CHILD, AND YOU DO NOT REPENT AND STOP HURTING CHILDREN, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!)
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More loving than Jehovah?
by teejay inon another board, the question was asked: "dear god, where were you 9-11-01?".
during the ensuing discussion among other things i said:believers who benefit from some good fortune (a rescue from a burning building or a .
victory in a pointless game) without fail credit god.
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LOL,
Genesis 1:1: In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth;
Genesis 1:2: and the Earth being without form and empty, and darkness on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moving gently on the face of the waters,
Genesis 1:3: then God said, Let light be! And there was light.
Genesis 1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good, and God separated between the light and darkness.
Genesis 1:5: And God called the light, Day. And He called the darkness, Night. And there was evening, and there was morning the first day.
Genesis 1:6: And God said, Let an expanse be in the midst of the waters, and let it be dividing between the waters and the waters.
Genesis 1:7: And God made the expanse, and He separated between the waters which were under the expanse and the waters which were above the expanse. And it was so.
Genesis 1:8: And God called the expanse, Heavens. And there was evening, and there was morning the second day.
Genesis 1:9: And God said, Let the waters under the Heavens be collected to one place, and let the dry land appear. And it was so.
Genesis 1:10: And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:11: And God said, Let the Earth sprout tender sprouts, the plant seeding seed, the fruit tree producing fruit according to its kind, whichever seed is in it on the Earth. And it was so.
Genesis 1:12: And the Earth bore tender sprouts, the plant seeding seed according to its kind, and the fruit tree producing fruit according to its kind, whichever seed is in it. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:13: And there was evening, and there was morning the third day.
Genesis 1:14: And God said, Let luminaries be in the expanse of the Heavens, to divide between the day and the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years.
Genesis 1:15: And let them be for luminaries in the expanse of the Heavens, to give light on the Earth. And it was so.
Genesis 1:16: And God made the two great luminaries: the great luminary to rule the day, and the small luminary and the stars to rule the night.
Genesis 1:17: And God set them in the expanse of the Heavens, to give light on the Earth,
Genesis 1:18: and to rule over the day and over the night; and to divide between the light and the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:19: And there was evening, and there was morning the fourth day.
Genesis 1:20: And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarmers having a soul of life; and let the birds fly over the Earth, on the face of the expanse of the Heavens.
Genesis 1:21: And God created the great sea animals, and all that creeps, having a living soul, which swarmed the waters, according to its kind; and every bird with wing according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:22: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas; and let the birds multiply in the Earth.
Genesis 1:23: And there was evening, and there was morning the fifth day.
Genesis 1:24: And God said, Let the Earth bring forth the soul of life according to its kind: cattle, and creepers, and its beasts of the Earth, according to its kind. And it was so.
Genesis 1:25: And God made the beasts of the Earth according to its kind, and cattle according to its kind, and all creepers of the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:26: And God said, let Us make man in Our Image, according to Our Likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the Heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the Earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the Earth.
Genesis 1:27: And God created the man in His own Image; in the Image of God He created him. He created them male and female.
Genesis 1:28: And God blessed them; and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the seas, and over birds of the Heavens, and over all beasts creeping on the Earth.
Genesis 1:29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every plant seeding seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree seeding seed; it shall be food for you.
Genesis 1:30: And to every beast of the Earth, and to all birds of the Heavens, and to every creeper on the Earth which has in it a living soul, every green plant is for food. And it was so.
Genesis 1:31: And God saw everything that He had made and behold, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning the sixth day.
Genesis 2:1: And the Heavens and the Earth were finished, and all their host.
Genesis 2:2: And on the seventh day God completed His work which He had made. And He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.
Genesis 2:3: And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because He rested from all His work on it, which God had created to make.
Genesis 2:4: These are the generations of the Heavens and of the Earth when they were created in the day that Jehovah God was making Earth and Heavens.
Genesis 2:5: And every shrub of the field was not yet on the Earth, and every plant of the field had not yet sprung up; for Jehovah God had not sent rain on the Earth, and there was no man to till the ground.
Genesis 2:6: And mist went up from the Earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
Genesis 2:7: And Jehovah God formed the man out of dust from the ground, and blew into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. -
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Comments That You Will Not Hear at the WTS 9-22-02
by blondie inwt study for the week of september 16 to 22, 2002. stirred by "the magnificent things of god"acts 2:11. snippets of scriptures abound in this weeks lesson starting with the theme scripture.
it is interesting what the wts thinks are "the magnificent things of god.
" acts chapter 2 records the events concerning the founding of the christian congregation, the giving of holy spirit to those gathered with the outward sign of speaking in tongues.
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Pistoff said:
that was easy compared to the concludingtalk by the CO: reminded again that CHILDREN WILL NOT BE SAVED BY THE EFFORTS OF FAITHFUL PARENTS. I thought we would get by without being reminded of the gruesome death facing young children not publishing or baptized, oh well.
I heard this Talk a while back.
IT IS VERY CONTRADICTORY!
This is the reason why:
The Watchtower Society teaches that if a Child's Parents get Disfellowshipped, Jehovah will destroy the CHILDREN at Armageddon along with the Parents!
But now, if the Parents are Faithful Witnesses, Jehovah will STILL DESTROY THE CHILDREN at Armageddon if they don't get enough hours in the Field Service!
Amazing how they say this is ALL BIBLICAL(TM) TEACHINGS!
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reading different versions of the bible
by showme inwhat is the rule for a jw on reading different versions of the bible besides the nwt?
can they compare between them?
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I believe that there most certainly are Translations that are quite accurate to the original texts.
I am curious, hasn't anyone compared the Dead Sea Scrolls to today's Translations?
I would think that would be a good way to make sure how much the text has changed over the Millenniums.
The NWT was INTENTIONALLY CORRUPTED by the Governing Body to support their own teachings.
I am not a big fan of the NIV.
I do really enjoy the King James Version (however, it is definitely hard to understand some of those old words).
I have found some Translations I like, which seem to be pretty un-biased Translations, such as the "Literal Translation of the Holy Bible" and the "World English Bible".
I do think that the NIV is WAY BETTER than the NWT.