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Bible CONTRADICTIONS (Post Yours Here!) -- And Yahweh is a "Monster"!
by UnDisfellowshipped in"yahweh is a monster and the bible is full of contradictions!".
this is for all atheists, skeptics, believers, anyone to post the biggest contradictions that you believe are found in the bible, and also to tell about why you believe the god of the old testament (yahweh/jehovah) is a "monster" (as so many have said on this website in the past).. so this is a double-themed-thread!.
i want to see if i can provide good answers/solutions using logic and reasoning..
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"The Problem of EVIL & SUFFERING" Thread!
by UnDisfellowshipped infor all individuals who are atheists, agnostics, christians, jews, muslims, jehovah's witnesses, or anyone else: this is the thread to post the very best argument against god or defense/case for god based on the problem of evil/suffering.. if there is an all-good, all-powerful, all-knowing god, why does he allow all of the suffering and evil we have today (and down through the millenniums)?.
also, for those who believe in god (like myself), how do you harmonize/reconcile your belief in god with the fact of all of the evil and suffering in the world?.
i will post my beliefs on this shortly..
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For Atheists & Strong Agnostics: (Believers can counter-post also!)
by UnDisfellowshipped infor atheists and strong agnostics (those who believe that we cannot know about god if he exists):.
i am posting this thread because i think it greatly help myself (and other christian believers) to better understand your beliefs and your viewpoints, if you posted a short (or long) summary of what the reasons and basis are for your not believing that there is a god, or for believing that we cannot know god if he exists.. you can include arguments against god, against the bible, against the christian interpretations of the bible, etc.. you can include scientific evidence that you believe contradicts the bible, or contradicts the existence of a god/creator/designer.. christians believers: you are welcome to post counter-arguments, or summaries for why you believe in god/creator/designer or why you believe in the bible or the christian interpretations of the bible.. i also thought it might be good to link to another lively thread we had on this website a while back: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/175688/1/god-morals-and-atheists.
when you include your reasons for why you don't believe in god or the bible, or why you do believe in god or the bible, please include at least a little bit of the evidence (or link to the evidence) that backs up your statement.. for example, it doesn't do much good to claim "evolution is false" and just leave it at that, or on the other hand, to say "the bible is full of scientific errors" and just leave it at that.. here are two threads i posted where i explained the reasons why i personally believe in god and the bible:.
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Watchtower says: Jesus is a FALLEN ANGEL
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower society teaches that jesus is a fallen angel!.
back in the days of charles taze russell, the watchtower society correctly taught that abaddon/apollyon from revelation chapter 9 was satan or a demon (because the bible describes him as a fallen angel of the abyss who is in control of all of the demon/locusts):.
the finished mystery (1917):.
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What was it that first got you thinking that the Society was WRONG in how they INTERPRET the BIBLE?
by UnDisfellowshipped inwhat was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.
for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..
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JW's are NOT Dedicated to the ORGANIZATION!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower society claims that jehovah's witnesses are not dedicated to the watchtower organization!.
this claim is made in the quotes below.. however, how can this be true, while at the same time, all jehovah's witnesses are baptized in the name of the "spirit-directed organization"?.
the watchtower, july 1st, 1970, page 404:.
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How does GOVERNING BODY receive "NEW LIGHT"?
by UnDisfellowshipped injust how does the governing body of jehovah's witnesses receive their "insight" or "understanding" of the bible, in order to publish this "spiritual food at the proper time" in their watchtower and awake magazines and all their books?.
let's find out -- from their own publications -- exactly how this happens:.
"spirits of the dead" brochure (1991), page 18:.
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What is the GOVERNING BODY?
by UnDisfellowshipped inwhat is the governing body?.
we hear so much about "the governing body" from jehovah's witnesses and from watchtower publications.
just what is this governing body?.
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Watchtower says: Anointed DO NOT have MORE Bible Understanding
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe anointed do not have more bible understanding than the great crowd!.
the watchtower, june 15th, 1996, page 31:.
the other sheep today perform the same preaching work as the remnant, under the same trying conditions, and manifest the same faithfulness and integrity.
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Watchtower says TEST US against the BIBLE!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower society says "test us against the bible!".
test the inspired expressions.
) we must not believe every spirit, or inspired expression, but we should test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with god.