All JW's the GB interact with live like that. They are the ones who own all the companies that sell and do the remodels, equipment, car rentals, etc, and in exchange give the GB the first class treatment for all aspects of life, etc. So that's the lifestyle of those who end up with all the money from contributions, etc.
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New video release at district convention. Do Jws live like this?
by solomon ini just got back from the district convention and watched the new video.
can't remember what it is called but the main family live in a million dollar home and there teenage daughter drives a red convertable sports car.
probably worth about 50000$.
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Isis report .....................remind you of anything ???
by Clambake inhttp://rt.com/news/166920-isis-iraq-offensive-report/.
oh crap, i almost crapped myself when i saw that.
right down to " the elimination of apostates "..
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The GB should relocate to Iraq. One of their articles about apostes published in the 80's said that apostates (those who don't kiss worship the ground they walk on and believe their every utterance equal to god) are deserving of death but they don't kill them today because it's against the law. If they were in a country where apostates are put to death they would probably be doing it.
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What prophecys made you belive the Bible?
by venting ini now believe the bible is a book of history and myths.
the org and others still point to certain prophecys that lead them to believe, that god must have been involved.
how can we explain some of these?
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Thanks for posting all of that Morgana. I agree and that's what I was talking about.
Russell taught some of those things then Rutherford with all of his failed prophecies decided to drop the Israel being regathered as a nation prophecy about 3 to 5 years before it actually happened. I wonder what JW's then thought when the 'new light' said it was all just symbolic, etc, then a few laters it actually happened. I wonder what the doctrine today would be had Rutherford not dropped it.
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What prophecys made you belive the Bible?
by venting ini now believe the bible is a book of history and myths.
the org and others still point to certain prophecys that lead them to believe, that god must have been involved.
how can we explain some of these?
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The regathering and rejoining of Israel. Seems very unlikely it would have been possible that they would get their country back after almost 2,000 years of wandering the world.
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watchtowers army assault on our vulnerable elderly in nursing homes
by friendaroonie inits been a long time since i have been this enraged at the evilness and shameless exploitation by the jws.
i just got back from the meeting (dont ask) and sat through the km article laying out plans to mass convert nursing homes all over the world.
i am not going to labor the obvious ethical travesty of this plan but i will say that it constitutes a major public health risk.
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The GB has obviously decided that they can profit from the nursing home population by getting them to sign over whatever money and assets they have left and they figure they will get them within a couple of years.
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Neurophoton Consciousness Theory
by EndofMysteries infor nobody who has heard of it, it would be a huge post to explain the whole thing, but i was just curious of the thoughts of anybody who has learned about it.
since consciousness is very debateable and still unknown this theory based on what is known so far sounds very plausible.
for those who don't want to look it up, here is an attempt to very quickly summarize the theory.
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cofty - One of the sites I read explaining the concept addressed that question, including brain damage, etc. The answer showed how changes in the brain make changes in consciousness. The claim is that the brain limits consciousness. Not that it creates it. Kind of like your body is a machine and when your consciousness is attached and bound to the body, it's limited to what the body/machine allows. If it's damaged or tweaked, it can result in higher or lower levels while still bound to the body.
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Neurophoton Consciousness Theory
by EndofMysteries infor nobody who has heard of it, it would be a huge post to explain the whole thing, but i was just curious of the thoughts of anybody who has learned about it.
since consciousness is very debateable and still unknown this theory based on what is known so far sounds very plausible.
for those who don't want to look it up, here is an attempt to very quickly summarize the theory.
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I'll copy and paste some descriptions going more in depth. (this is probably 1/4 or 1/2 of information I cutted from this site/person attempting to explain it at http://lofi.forum.physorg.com/The-Neurophoton-Consciousness-Theory_20126.html)
Human consciousness is not a product of the brain. In order to process data carried on photons, the brain serves as a complex transducer converting consciousness from electrical photon energy to electrochemical energy. Human beings process all information, whether abstract or concrete through an extensive nervous system of insulated wiring. Electricity, a form of light energy, conducts consciousness throughout the body and provides animation and emotional response. To differentiate between the natures of the various spectrums of the electromagnetic spectrum, the term neurophoton is used to define those photons capable of interaction with the human physical apparatus. Consciousness in humans is made up of a cohesive field of electromagnetic energy; part of the electromagnetic spectrum and, therefore, must follow all the laws of quantum physics, Special Relativity, and nature.
Neuroscience tells us that the human brain is made up of approximately 100-billion nerve cells, called neurons. These cells communicate with one another and the body through tiny electrochemical impulses. The neuron cell charges and discharges much like a battery. At rest it has a potential of -70mV and when enough positively charged sodium permeates the neuron cell wall to bring the charge up to -55mV the neuron electrically fires, or discharges, to the dendrite receiver of the next neuron. While the on going chemical process travels from 200 to 250 miles per hour across the nervous system, the electricity fires across the neuron cell at the speed of light and falls into the electromagnetic spectrum. These electrical impulses traveling along neuro-system pathways exist as a manifestation of light in one or more of the bands of the electromagnetic spectrum. Again we find the significance of light (photons) and the physical body. Light both holds the body together by the presence of gluons binding the quarks in the protons and neutrons; and in thought, electrically fired neurons direct every activity of the body. Both mentally and physically the body is controlled electrically.
In the world of science, we don�t get something from nothing. If we can�t get something from nothing from a scientific perspective, and consciousness is clearly something, then where does it come from and where does it go? Consciousness cannot be a product of the brain. If so, the Law of Conservation of Energy (which says energy cannot be created or destroyed) must be discarded. If consciousness is not the product of the human brain, then what is it, and what is its source?
We know that all photons have light speed velocity but only certain photons carry information that can be absorbed by a human through his senses. This theory refers to all photons in any spectrum of the electromagnetic spectrum as neurophotons if they are within human comprehension through any of the senses and can be integrated into human consciousness through the nervous system. Secondary neurophotons consist of impulses absorbed through the senses exclusive of sight; i.e. hearing, smell, touch, and taste and transformed in the brain into electrical impulses for inclusion in human consciousness. For the purposes of our theory, the term neurophoton is used to designate the nature of the photons rather than the frequency of the photons. We know that there are sounds at frequencies so high that we can�t hear them although dogs clearly can. We know that there are sounds at frequencies so low that we can�t hear them although elephants clearly can. The very same principle holds true for color and light. Humans consciously experience only a very small spectrum of the photon activity in the electromagnetic spectrum at any given moment in time. Visible light makes up only one-thousandths of one percent of the electromagnetic spectrum.
We know then where our consciousness comes from. It is absorbed through our senses from a type of photon (light) called a neurophoton that carries information, which we receive and process in our brain, which in turn will store the information and make it available through electromagnetic impulses throughout our nervous systems; or it is translated into electrical nerve impulses from our sense of touch, smell, taste, or the vibration of sound striking our ear drums. These electrical nerve impulses translated from any medium other than sight are secondary neurophotons. Consciousness does not originate in the human brain. Neurophotons may be stored and processed in the brain, but all information is extracted from neurophoton light. Light is without mass or weight, and light taken from light remains light. This is evident from neurological studies that have proven that the brain fires electrochemical-magnetic impulses to operate our body and produce our thoughts and our reaction to our thoughts. Electromagnetic phenomena are the product of photons in movement. Every movement you make, therefore, originated in light. Information is the fundamental substance of consciousness, and information is borne on light and in fact is light. Therefore, consciousness itself is light.
When your physical body dies, it does not vanish. It is 12+ billion years old and it simply returns to the elements from whence it came. In our entire universe there is nothing that is stationary. All things are forever and constantly in a state of flux - forever in movement and change. Your body, at least in its present form, is not going to last very long in terms of galactic time. But what about your consciousness? At first glance you might be inclined to believe that it will go away also. Why wouldn�t it? Your body will be nothing more than dust a few years after you die. But remember your consciousness is not made up of matter. It is made up of light. Again, remember, photons refuse to play by the rules of the physical universe that dictate the behavior of everything else. Also, remember that photons travel effortlessly at the speed of light. Remember also that anything traveling at the speed of light will cease to be constrained by the ordinary physical rules of the space-time continuum. Time has stopped for light. Actually, time never really existed for light to begin with.
Let us suppose that you drop dead this instant. There can be no �magic� or �superstition� in quantum physics. Every element of your body must follow the laws of quantum physics. Even the photons, while not following the laws of the other elements, will nonetheless follow the clearly observable laws that define the behavior of all other photons. There are no maverick photons. There is no cosmic magic. The physical body must dissolve into individual atoms over a period of time and then find identity in other things. The atoms that make up your body existed billions of years ago and they will exist billions of years from now. But the photons that comprise individual consciousness are without physical constraint and must act like photons. They travel at the speed of light. This light consciousness can no more vanish without violating the fundamental laws of quantum physics than the physical electrons and protons of the body can.
Unless we revise the laws of physics including the Theory of Special Relativity, we must conclude that consciousness does not end with human death. Consciousness is constructed uniquely in the body of each person with light energy taken into their bodies through the senses, carried throughout the body on clearly identified carriers in the electromagnetic spectrum of the universe. The photons carrying information used to construct the unique consciousness of any individual existed before the birth of the individual and will continue to exist after the death of the individual because all the parts of individual consciousness are part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Furthermore, once those neurophotons are bound into a unique field of consciousness that particular consciousness continues to exist as a singular cohesive light field because it is the nature of light bearing information to do so. At the speed of light, photons are not acted upon by time or any other stimuli that act upon things with rest mass; therefore, they exist perpetually to infinity.
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Neurophoton Consciousness Theory
by EndofMysteries infor nobody who has heard of it, it would be a huge post to explain the whole thing, but i was just curious of the thoughts of anybody who has learned about it.
since consciousness is very debateable and still unknown this theory based on what is known so far sounds very plausible.
for those who don't want to look it up, here is an attempt to very quickly summarize the theory.
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For nobody who has heard of it, it would be a huge post to explain the whole thing, but I was just curious of the thoughts of anybody who has learned about it.
Since consciousness is very debateable and still unknown this theory based on what is known so far sounds very plausible.
For those who don't want to look it up, here is an attempt to very quickly summarize the theory.
If you know about photons, they transmit information and travel at the speed of light. (if you look at a star, you are seeing what happened to be there millions of years, etc, ago, you are seeing the information that photons had when they left that star and traveling at the speed of light finally got here). They remained grouped and didn't break out showing the star intact as it appeared then. Taking that concept, the neurophoton consciousness theory says that our consciousness is the result of a group of neurophotons and all the information gathered throughout our life and at death, those photons don't just cease, it merely leaves the body, so our consciousness doesn't die. It's much more complex then that but that's an attempt to explain the theory. Look it up, I'm curious if people think it's impossible, ridiculous, or sounds possible, etc.
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What would be a scientific description/explanation of what God is?
by EndofMysteries inbased upon descriptions in the bible and what is known scientifically so far, what would god actually be?
lightning comes out of the throne.
no man may see and live.
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Based upon descriptions in the bible and what is known scientifically so far, what would God actually be?
Lightning comes out of the throne. No man may see and live. Other descriptions have involved bright light, fire, etc.
He would be a being of pure energy. An intelligent being out of energy.
Can there be life out of energy? Our life and thoughts are all electrical and energy based. The lower the electrical hz in our brains, the less conscious we are. The higher, the more alert we are.
Since energy can not be created nor destroyed but changed from one form to another it would make sense that he used or converted some of his own energy for all things to exist. It would explain why he is eternal. If he is a part of everything that would explain how he would know everything as well.
We haven't seen with our own eyes intelligent life made completely out of energy and no organic matter but does that mean it's impossible?
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Atheism is a Belief System
by seekchristonly inis atheism a belief system.
after all the atheist believes there is no god .so if that's the case then an atheist if a person of faith.
they have faith in the fact there is no god.
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GoodGuyGreg - "provided some properties are universal" - that is it. When we think of nothing, there are no properties. Void of any properties, energy, anything. What is beyond the universe? If space and empty space is a byproduct of the expansion of the universe, what is past that point? That might be nothing.
But what Krauss is showing based upon my answering of your explanation, is that once you have the building blocks then a creator is not needed. Where did the building blocks come from?