Posts by oppostate

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If Prince had an addiction to prescriptions drugs, it's a personal matter but if I want to grow a beard or attend college, it's not.

by ToesUp in

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interesting article i found about prince and the jw religion.

i guess they are trying to get their 15 minutes of fame.

i find it disturbing that the elder stated if prince had an addiction to prescription drugs, that is a personal matter but the hundreds of intrusive jw rules like going to college (not scriptural) and growing a beard (also not scriptural) are not also considered a personal choice.

oppostate

George Cook, OMG, George F'ing Cook, whattttt!

Caption: Elder George Cook (right), one of the nine elders of the small 90-person congregation, said Prince regularly ‘witnessed’ alone in the community and in groups

George Cook was DO in our District over two decades ago. He was very detail oriented and very eccentric. He was very controlling and very devoted to Momma WT. It's interesting he still does his hair in a "overlapping" comb-over fashion and wears 1990's eyeglass frames.

His real family name is Greek. But they shortened it to Cook. This once powerful District Overseer must have been put to retirement as with other DO's. The article says he's 81 years old. He wielded a lot of power and expected total allegiance. It is interesting to see how the mighty have fallen. He was once in charge of the Caribbean, traveling the islands and having a grand ol' time. Now he just looks like any little old man in a suit a bit too big for him.

Did you ever get to meet George Cook?

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@ToesUp

Thanks for bringing out this article. I found it very interesting if somewhat inaccurate about the cremation traditions etc.

I agree that there's definitely a double standard when it comes to those favored among the 0rganization. But...

As the case with George Cook, now just an elder in Prince's home congregation, the mighty ones can come crashing down when Momma WT doesn't need them much anymore.

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(I also want to apologize to ToesUp for hijacking his post with my comments that didn't quite follow the thread of intended discussion. I know there are quite a lot of posts about Prince, and I didn't want to fork this information needlessly, yet I feel I may have been hijacking his post since I was commenting on George Cook and the KH itself so if you'd like to comment on George Cook or the KH I've started a post just about that only
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5732286779621376/george-cook-former-do-now-just-elder-princes-home-congregation-kh).

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If Prince had an addiction to prescriptions drugs, it's a personal matter but if I want to grow a beard or attend college, it's not.

by ToesUp in

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friends

interesting article i found about prince and the jw religion.

i guess they are trying to get their 15 minutes of fame.

i find it disturbing that the elder stated if prince had an addiction to prescription drugs, that is a personal matter but the hundreds of intrusive jw rules like going to college (not scriptural) and growing a beard (also not scriptural) are not also considered a personal choice.

oppostate

From that article in the Daily Mail here's the KH of the Congregation Prince belonged to:

Caption: Prince, who officially converted to the religion in 2003, is associated with the Jehovah’s Witness Kingdom Hall, Saint Louis Park congregation in Minneapolis

The photo of the inside made me notice some interesting details.

Caption: The singer attended a 50-minute ceremony at the church (pictured) on March 23 to commemorate the death of Jesus – an event celebrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses all over the world

It's an old KH style, that was common back in the 80's. The side windows and the ugly light fixtures are from that style, and not the more modern RBC's window-less walls with parabolic light fixtures.

Also the chrome legged chairs are what most KH used three decades ago, and in what hideous colors. Around here in New England the RBC changed over to a similar yet wider steel frame construction, painted and not chromed, and also a little bit wider and more plush by a half an inch on the seat.

They're obviously meeting for going out in service and the projection screen is down ??? I thought they were moving away from projectors and screens, there seems to be a large screen tv at the right hand side of the photo.

If as the article points out Prince gave "gifts of mercy", in considerable amounts of the monetary sort, then that dough wasn't making it to the local congregation's remodeling of the KH. It seems Momma WT must have been the recipient instead.

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Oh happy people

by zeb in

what is it with meetings?.

so often she comes home throws her bag down and stomps around the house.

there are times it thoroughly gets me down.. + supportive comment welcome.

oppostate

With my wife, if I don't go to the meeting there'll first be this silent disapproval attitude, with loud actions announcing it's time for getting ready to go to the meeting, and also quiet staring before leaving for the KH.

Then once back at home there will be more unspoken tension, loud putting away of books, and meeting clothes, and side stares that linger. All this until time passes, she has a couple glasses of merlot, or can't stand it anymore and says some personal jab needing discussion and reassurance that I love her and I'm not avoiding meetings to "hurt" her.

Trying to be the adult in a situation where one of the mates is still under the claws of a "cult" makes family life "difficult".

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Prince could potentially have a JW funeral

by StarTrekAngel in

the question is, are there two credible witnesses to the allegations of overdose?

if i understand correctly from the research into child abuse, the medical diagnosis would not count as a witness.. was he baptized?

what year?.

oppostate

If his will left a large chunk of money to the Watchtower, Prince should get a GB member to give his funeral talk. Which of the magnificent 7 would you choose?

Of course it would be Hurdy. He's the one representative of minorities in the GB.

But could you imagine rubber face Lett giving the talk?

Or Bro. Deletion/Loesch. Maybe he'd praise Prince's Superbowl half-time show. NOT.

Or TOMO the turd, talking about Prince's tight pants.

Maybe Splane could let us know which music generation I mean genre Prince was in?

Or Jackson with his wife by the side would do a dance to Prince's "I wanna be your lover".

Or lastly, Sanderson, tablet in hand, could manage the new Funeral Talk Outline.

They certainly have varied choices.

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A troubling visit with a satisfying end.

by Bonsai in

so, i've been out for 2 years now.

just picked up and walked away from the wacky religion that tried to control every part of my life through fear and guilt.

i've been wondering as the months go by what would happen when an elder finally showed up at my door and pressed the issue as to why i ceased all activity and then tried to reactivate me.

oppostate

He said, " I should probably tell you that we can no longer go to the kingdom hall near here anymore. Our congregation and the 2 congregations sharing the hall have to start attending another hall that is 30 minutes from here. Our hall will be sold off."

The WT bugle is sounding retreat!

A wonderful sign of the times.

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Pinky ring, no please not there.

by pleaseresearch in

ok brothers and sisters, we need to use our imagination, and you might just question mine at the end of this haha.. but how would you feel, seeing a governing body member at the same holiday resort you and your family have just checked into?

you think this might be great to ask him questions and so approach him as he's lying on his back, sprawled on his beach towel.

as you get closer you look at his swollen, bloated feet and think what rich, creamy, buttery foods is he eating at bethel.

oppostate

If its just one then maybe take pics, hack Jw.org and post the pics as the cover photo.

Loyalist pub's will just say it was photoshopped.

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Interaction with Cart People

by Lost and adrift in

on a recent visit to our capital..such an adrenalin rush when i rounded a corner and spotted carters !!.

wandered slowly over and pretend to be interested..asked could i take mag...initial impression (and i'm in no way snobbish) was 2 scruffy looking dowdy sisters wich irritated me i don't know why....i was allways struggling as a single mum but refused to look like a tramp!!.

sister jumped asked if i was interested in religion i said no too much abuse etc ...she said she undwrstood and went on to blather about catholic abuse scandal!

oppostate

ur leader

I love it! Good anti-witnessing.

Makes one want to carry a tablet with a link to the ARC deposition of "leader" Jackson to show them during cart-to-cart apostate service.

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Hello! I am back!

by Iamallcool in

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friends

i am back!

i just bought ioad pro recently.

all i had was my i-phone, i did not feel like posting from my i-phone.

oppostate

Welcome back, lama.

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Abolitionist Harriet Tubman will replace President Andrew Jackson on the US$20 bill

by oppostate in

"it’s official: secretary of the treasury jack lew has announced that abolitionist harriet tubman will replace president andrew jackson on the $20 bill.

and, while jackson will still reportedly remain on the reverse side of the bill, the move is nonetheless a momentous one.. .

"naturally there are many people who will complain about this decision, but since tubman’s legacy leading slaves to freedom through the underground railroad is beyond reproach, these critics will most likely turn to defending jackson.

oppostate

Dr. Ben Carson:
“Andrew Jackson was ... a tremendous president,” Carson said on Fox.
Carson insisted that he does not dislike Tubman, an African American Civil War-era abolitionist and conductor on the Underground Railroad. But he disagrees with replacing Jackson.
“I love Harriet Tubman,” Carson said. “I love what she did. But we can find another way to honor her. Maybe, uh, maybe, a $2 bill.”

This guy is a real dufus! And Trump is thinking of making him Secretary of Education if he gets elected. Give me a break!

You have no idea how hardcore Harriet Tubman really was

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/21/the-audacious-career-of-harriet-tubman-the-new-face-of-the-20-bill/

"The woman who will be the face of the new $20 bill, Harriet Tubman, was a daring and principled fighter. Her dramatic career included defying slaveowners, smuggling dozens of slaves to freedom as part of the Underground Railroad, leading raids in the Civil War, and fighting for women's right to vote -- all of which she accomplished with a disability.
"Basically, Tubman was as tough as nails. The former slave risked her life countless times, and even performed an ad hoc dental surgery on herself while on the road for the Underground Railroad, knocking her front tooth out with a pistol, says biographer Catherine Clinton."

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Abolitionist Harriet Tubman will replace President Andrew Jackson on the US$20 bill

by oppostate in

"it’s official: secretary of the treasury jack lew has announced that abolitionist harriet tubman will replace president andrew jackson on the $20 bill.

and, while jackson will still reportedly remain on the reverse side of the bill, the move is nonetheless a momentous one.. .

"naturally there are many people who will complain about this decision, but since tubman’s legacy leading slaves to freedom through the underground railroad is beyond reproach, these critics will most likely turn to defending jackson.

oppostate

@DOC

It's not really about political correctness. It's about having symbols of our country represent values that matter to an equal and free society.

The age of white man oppression over women and minorities has to end sometime. I personally am all for the change of Tubman's profile (a woman recognized for her efforts to free slaves) over Jackson's (a President who connived and ordered the expulsion and forced resettlement of of Native Americans from their ancestral lands, thousands who died in what's been called the Trail of Tears).