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  A JWN Member just lost her Husband and She could use some encouragement.

  by ohiocowboy in

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  on 4/6, the poster orphan annie posted about her experiences with jw's and her ill husband.

  unfortunately, her husband died monday, and she is feeling very sad.

  i just wanted to make others aware of it, so that we can encourage her and give her some much needed support during this rough time.. her original thread is here.

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  nugget

  So sorry that this has happened to you. My thoughts are with your family at this time. It is hard to say goodbye to those we love.
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  The ugliest statment A parent can say to their child.

  by jam in

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  my ex (jw) told my two youngest 9 and 11, your dad.

  wanted more kids, meaning them.

  we had two older.. how would a child feel after their mother tell them, i really.

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  Taking out spite on the children is cruel. It is these brief moments of cruelty that we cling to and have the biggest impact. Your wife was so wrong t tell the children they were unwanted. Certainly to offer them no reassurance that whatever had been her state of mind in the past she had no regrets now would have tempered her statement and offered the children the hope that they were indeed loved. However if they have a dad that loves them that is still a special thing and your x wife needs to be very concerned after all it is the children that get to pick your nursing home.
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  Fun with the July 15th WT illustration

  by undercover in

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  yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.

  (kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).

  here's the illustration:.

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  nugget

  it's true blondes have more fun.
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  My son was murdered today

  by truman in

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  i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

  i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

  maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

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  I am so sorry, to loose a loved one in this way is so painful. The waste of a good man is a tragedy asking for support is the right thing to do. Post counts are irrelevant in a situation such as this your pain counts for much more.
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  A new member of the thinking class

  by Captain Obvious in

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  this is my first post on this forum, though it feels like i already know some of you here.

  i have been lurking for a couple of months now, and i must say, there honestly seems to be more love and respect here than any forum i have ever seen on any forum of any kind.

  i am 25 years old, married 3 years to my wonderful wife who is 22. we had a somewhat classic jw upbringing... which i now know has been our biggest problem.

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  nugget

  I was a believing wife with a husband who had doubts. It is possible to exit together but you do need to take it slowly, there is a desire to tell her everything at once but please don't. If she isn't studious by nature she is in it for family so the mere idea that doctrines are not right will not be enough for her. She doesn't really care about the doctrine she does care about relationships. If you push too hard she will revert to her go to response and do what good jws do. You need to avoid high drama as things will spiral quickly out of control.

  I used expressions like I thought the gb had lost it's way. When speaking to my mum as this was less threatening.

  Keep reminding her you love her. Good luck feel free to pm any time.
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  How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?

  by slimboyfat in

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  it's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.

  there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.

  but they have to deal with it one way or another.

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  As time goes on jws become less aware of their history and implications of it. I can remember several versions of the generation teaching, Malawi, 1975 etc. but many recent converts and born ins from the 1980s have been led to believe in a fictional account of these times. This means that the society can imply that any idea regarding the 1914 observers being there at he end was a fiction created by human imperfection among believers and not something they ever taught. How they explain 100 years of Christ rule with little impact on society in general is a little more challenging but I am sure they can spin it.
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  Its the memorial, NOT EASTER!

  by Joliette in

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  my mom says dont say happy easter cause she is not a part of babylon the great...i said 'happy easter' to my brother as a joke and my brother goes back and tells my mom like were little kids (i'm 29 and he's 27 with a new baby by the way) and my mom writes me a lengthy email about how i shouldnt joke about babylon the great.

  i am 29 years old, 29. and i can't joke around.

  i know all j-dubs arent like this, but a lot of them are just like my mom.

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  Sadly she is brainwashed. With jws they are inflexible and you always have to compromise for them. It is all about obeying the fine print and never letting your guard down. They wouldn't see it as bad manners to go to someone's wedding reception without having gone to the ceremony. For them they didn't get involved in false religion so they are still in good standing. It is sad but not untypical.
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  I am disturbed by this video and am not sure what to make of it?

  by yourmomma in

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  i warn you, there are some graphic images.

  it seems like a young person who was insulted by a fellow jw made a video about burning her and the rest of the jw's in the kingdom hall.

  what do you make of this?

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  If it is threatening and disturbing then report it. If there is no intent then at the very least this person may need psychiatric help.
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  Does the WTS disfellowship mentally challenged people?

  by Elsewhere in

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  has anyone ever seen a situation where the wts disfellowhiped someone who is autistic, retarded or otherwise mentally challenged?.

  i wonder if the elders give them more leeway knowing that they are not always capable of making decisions as well as a normal person.. .

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  The elders in our old congregation agreed with my comment that there was no place for my son in the congregation. He was 7 had aspergers and worried about strange and unlikely events. He is a delightful boy and yet as far as they were concerned god didn't want him and their meetings couldn't accommodate him. It is a harsh religion that is all about the task, if you are not fit enough to do the work then they will not invest time on you. So he would not be seen as a baptismal candidate.

  However I have heard of someone with severe depression who was df'd and someone else whose mind was screwed through drug addiction in his youth who had major psychotic episodes but never was df'd. It seems it is all about elders and what they personally think is acceptable. This is why there is no consistency and no god in he process.
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  In love with a JW...

  by CuriousUK in

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  apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.

  two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.

  he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.

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  For jws love is a more complex thing than for most people. Their status in the faith is also dependent on their choice of spouse and style of courtship. In order to do well a man must marry a woman of good standing in the religion, the courtship should be above reproach and the couple must be chaperoned at all times. If the relationship falls short of the ideal then the man is seen as spiritually weak and will not be able to progress in the faith. This means that dating a "worldly" person I.E. someone who is not a jw leads to all sorts of internal conflict.

  For jws being part of and belonging to the group is key to them. The groups approval is an essential part of their life and sometimes attachments will be sacrificed to gain acceptance from the group. There are always 3 elements to any of their relationships and not all have equal status. Any non believer is at the bottom and is in a vulnerable position. Dating an unbeliever is being disloyal to god, it is the unbeliever who is the source of the problem and it is they who are blamed for the problems the jw encounters. This is partly why he shuts you out when he considers the impact of your relationship on his life. As an unbeliever it will not occur to him to discuss this with you since your opinion can have no bearing on his decision.

  So his love is not a meeting of equals but a decision you have no part in. He is not intentionally cruel but highly conditioned.