i'm not sure the whole 607 b.c.e.
controversy is really that major of a deal.. even if the society admits it and changes it, that's only a difference of 20-21 years, so the governing body could just shift 1914 to 1934-1935 and say that world war ii and hitler was the beginning of the signs.. a much bigger issue is why they even say daniel's tree prophecy has an antitypical fulfillment, especially after their new light on types and antitypes..
Oh and the WTS still lags way, way down there on page three of the results for "2520 years"
One would think the Almighty Jah could at least place his Chosen Organization's explanation of such an important prophecy at the top of Google's search results!!
i'm not sure the whole 607 b.c.e.
controversy is really that major of a deal.. even if the society admits it and changes it, that's only a difference of 20-21 years, so the governing body could just shift 1914 to 1934-1935 and say that world war ii and hitler was the beginning of the signs.. a much bigger issue is why they even say daniel's tree prophecy has an antitypical fulfillment, especially after their new light on types and antitypes..
The interesting thing about 2,520 years is that the WTS is just one of many nutjob religions that use silly biblical numerology. Once again, the WTS proves it is in no way "unique" when compared to all other religions.
Google it here, and see how many charlatans use this stuff to deceive their followers:
let's just say i sometimes don't know how to keep my trap shut.
i really need to learn to keep well enough alone when she attacks me.
keep in mind i never start the fights about the borg.
If you don't want a divorce, stop discussing doctrine with your JW immediately.
Stop now.
I've read a few of your threads, probably not all of them, but enough to get a feel for your wife. You are not dealing with a rational person. You will never, ever win an "argument" over doctrine with a JW.
Stop now. You have to either find another way, or accept life with your JW as it is.
we have all noticed this and commented in other threads.... but isn't it interesting that in times past, witnesses earned a reputation of being so determined to share "the kingdom message" that they would put their foot in the door at a house to keep the conversation going!.
now, the apathy and lack of effort in service; particularly with the literature carts shows the complete opposite!
yet...the end is supposed to be even closer right?
Somewhere along the line the focus switched from "studies" and "placements" to "hours". Of course hours were always part of the equation, but now they make up 90% of the focus of most JWs.
So you get this environment permeated by apathy. Nothing else matters except punching the time clock. Especially for those oh-so-special JWs, the pioneers, its all about counting the hours as they crawl on by.
Its truly pathetic no matter how you look at it.
let's just say i sometimes don't know how to keep my trap shut.
i really need to learn to keep well enough alone when she attacks me.
keep in mind i never start the fights about the borg.
Sounds like you want a divorce.
I wouldn't count on Jesus doing much, at least that's what I was trying initially when I woke up. I guess he was out to lunch that year.
its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..
i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.
we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.
All of us will be pushing up daises before the b0rg experiences anything looking like a "downfall".
Remember, this bunch has a 140 year track record of getting everything wrong. Some people/groups are Teflon Dons.
i met this amazing girl about 6years ago at my local congregation.
i was 100% in back then.
about 3years ago i woke up spiritually and kept it undercover till a few months ago.. this girl is still very in (but she doesnt really do the things a reaaal jw should do.
You are insane if you marry this girl.
That is all.
jesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.
but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.
interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????
Agree with Brokeback, just another religious tale that allows people to hold out hope that this ain't all there is.
While I do feel that this is all there is, there isn't a way to prove it, thus there will always be "believers" walking the earth in some form or another.
i am currently having a study with a pioneer couple to try to reactivate me and get me back into the congregation.
they have asked me to really think about the provision of the ransom sacrifice.
in doing so i have gone back to basics and have already hit a few questions i am thinking of raising.
Here is a little thing to spring on them if you want to have a little fun...
Imagine Adam and Eve had remained perfect, had 30 children who all grew up, and then one of those children "sinned". Maybe they decided to grab a little of the forbidden fruit, or broke some other rule. So is that child executed? Or allowed to reproduce and create little "defective souls" who now start running around the earth?
Its the same problem that will exist in the supposed "paradise". Once everyone gets sick of endless fruit platters and petting panda bears, they are gonna start breaking the rules of paradise. What then? Executions every day at sundown for the sinners? Some paradise.
They might try to fight you with the "we will be perfect" card. Yet Adam and Eve were perfect right? Perfection and free will are incompatible. You can only have one or the other. Eventually "perfect" beings will break the rules, unless they are simply robots programmed without free will.
JWs never think this through to the logical conclusion.
i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.
i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.
but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?
Did he get scared away???
I hope he doesn't get sucked into the cult!
