LOL LWT....as our new friend on the board often says:
itsacult
my school was a couple weeks back, and it was interesting to a degree.
to be honest with you, it reminded me of a police crime scene investigation with yellow tape.
what i mean is, in one respect it was business as usual.
LOL LWT....as our new friend on the board often says:
itsacult
my school was a couple weeks back, and it was interesting to a degree.
to be honest with you, it reminded me of a police crime scene investigation with yellow tape.
what i mean is, in one respect it was business as usual.
Sorry to hear you are sick...Thanks for "manning up" and giving us the report. Can't wait for more!
The confirmation on the Higher education thing is music to my ears. I love the threats, they are gonna wake up middle management if they keep this up!
The insane running the asylum comes to mind!
hi, i am new here and both understand and respect, at the end of the day, we are each on our own personal journey with our own personal spirituality.
i am most sincere and look forward to your kind thoughts about if we should try to understanding god.
as a young child i remember believing in and loving god but, of course, did not think about understanding him.
Today,somehow, I still feel a very strong spiritual connection, have faith God exists, love Christ, and have peace in knowing I am in good standing with them. I am aware that it is impossible to fully understand God and am therefore left thinking maybe I should stop trying to and just be content with the knowledge, joy, and peace I have been granted. What’s your thoughts?
It sounds like you are in a good place. What more is there?
In the WT, they push and shove you to "do more" because it is a works based religion, so you may be feeling the residuals of that. What I mean is the left over pressure that you should be "doing something" all the time. Have you read CoC, at the end Ray has a pretty good chapter on living as a Christian without the pressure.
i'm impressed with sophisticated thinking on this site.
after all it is an ex-witness site.
i wonder what changed in the former witnesses.
The smart ones leave!
if you've read some of my previous topics you can kind of get an idea of where i am right now.. i'm still living at home.
i just turned 22 years old.
a couple months ago i confessed my true feelings and beliefs to the elders.
Sounds like you have some fairly liberal elders. Especially considering you were a Pio/MS. Usually the higher up you are, the less reluctant they are to let you go without a fight.
Sometimes it also depends on how "public" you are about your doubts. They can't have somebody infecting the congo with their doubts, so if you have not done that then it sounds like they are in the "live in let live" mode.
does anyone ever think about when you are an ex jw and did not finish college, and how you handle that?.
by luck and skill i have always had a good job without a degree, but i found another opportunity, actually it is a municpal position, not a publicly traded or privately held company which i am used to working for for a decade.. i think i could squeek by on my 10 years of experience in my field, and the fact that i am in the process of enrolling and transferring credits to complete my degree.. so how would you handle that questions: "so do you have a degree in xxxx, what is your education background, etc?".
what i have said in the past, and it has helped as i got a subsequent job offer, is "due to circumstances, i did get married relatively young, and started a family, and was unable to finish college, because i put raising my children first.
I can't think of a single thing that you could say that would improve on the answer you already have locked and loaded. Probably works a lot better than:
"I was in a G0d damn cult that kept promising me that the end of the world was imminent and that I was soon to spend 1000 years burying corpses followed by millions of years petting pandas, any other questions?"
has anyone in this forum ever had an elder in the organization discuss "apostate" teachings with them in a non-threatening, mutually enlightening way?
obviously, there are many of you who have talked with elders about "apostate" ideas, and have been disfellowshipped/disciplined for it.
that's not really what i'm interested in hearing about in this thread, no offense.
No.
That elder is an apostate (according to the WT) and just trying to free a few minds before he exits himself.
Thinking and discussion like that is not allowed in cults.
i've been in this board for 2 months now, and have read and researched enough to know that what i thought was the one and only true religion isn't actually true.
finding out real facts has brought me severe disillusion and sadness.
as a jw i was taught that we were special in view of john 6:44 "no man can come to me unless the father, who sent me, draws him; and i will resurrect him in the last day.".
I agree with JamesWoods, we have all been there at some point. Did you convert or were you born in? As a born in, I always felt the suffocation of the JW religion just did not fit my personality, I never felt "chosen" by God growing up, I just felt the intense pressure of a fundamentalist Christian religion.
A few months after leaving, the peace that came with the mental freedom was astounding. Its like a pillow had been held over my brain for 30+ years and I was finally able to fight off my attacker.
does anyone have a pdf copy of the study copy of the sept 2010 wt?
thanks!.
This was one of the most aggressive Watchtowers on controlling the rank and file via the GB. Whether Barr really had a problem with it I doubt we will never know. Probably the next year of Study edition Watchtowers will give an idea on where GB 2.0 really stands.
A couple of quotes taken from this thread.
We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.
In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”— all the earthly interests of the Kingdom—to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men. The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.
Jesus had prophesied that “on arriving” to inspect his domestics during “the conclusion of the system of things,” he would find a slave providing them “food at the proper time.” He would pronounce that slave happy and would “appoint him over all his belongings” on earth. As Head of the Christian congregation, Christ has used this “faithful and discreet slave” to administer His Kingdom interests on earth. He has provided direction for the anointed “domestics” and their “other sheep” companions by means of a Governing Body.
i often find myself trying to put together a mental list of the good things about the watchtower.
when i was a witnesses that list was long, but as i moved away from the organization all the items on that list started blurring from fantasy into reality.. it seems apparent to me that the watchtower is nothing but a huge scandal spanning over a century.
what a concept, a century old blatent lie.. old list of jw virtues.
The GOD CARD is a tough one to overcome.
When people think they are doing what GOD WANTS then there isn't any other alternative. Not just JWs, but pretty much all religions.
As LWT often says: "Facts are rendered useless when confronted by the power of belief" Hopefully I didnt butcher that quote..