Posts by jerome

after reviewing all the great information on the internet and on this board, and with much praying and bible reading, i have made up my mind to stop studying.

i have written a letter to the sister i have been studying with explaining why (cowardly, i know but that's kinda the way i am)i have packed up all the books i've been given (what to do with them?

Announcement

by bchapp in

jw
friends

to anybody who cares, i have an announcement to make.

after reviewing all the great information on the internet and on this board, and with much praying and bible reading, i have made up my mind to stop studying.

i have written a letter to the sister i have been studying with explaining why (cowardly, i know but that's kinda the way i am)i have packed up all the books i've been given (what to do with them?

jerome

I wouldent be surpriesed if you got an announced vist form your study conductor wanting to know what happened unless your letter was fairly explicit.

Rember that you could be shunned as apostate for saying the wrong thing around these people. They are a cult as shuch, the exhibit extremly irrational fits anger, disapproval, and scorn to all those who disagree of their belief system.

Do not underestemate what a combination of fear pride and unthinking respect for authority can acheive.

They will become very upset with anyone who dares mention anything negative about the Watchtower in their presence.

Becareful.

This is very important so I think that I should mention it.

You may have a tiny little voice in your head saying :

"What is they are right?"

That is only normal because we as human beings find it difficult to totally close our minds to an idea or belief system that someone who we know strongly believes in. We think to ourselves, 'is something wrong with me?'

There is a thread that is intitled

"What am I thinking"

do a search for it and that should help you with any doubts you may have about making your decision.

jerome

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Announcement

by bchapp in

jw
friends

to anybody who cares, i have an announcement to make.

after reviewing all the great information on the internet and on this board, and with much praying and bible reading, i have made up my mind to stop studying.

i have written a letter to the sister i have been studying with explaining why (cowardly, i know but that's kinda the way i am)i have packed up all the books i've been given (what to do with them?

jerome

Click on the search button and do a search for the thread

"How many found the real truth from the internet"

or something like that.

Add your announcement to that list.

The ranks are thinning.

jerome

ps bchapp good decision. You wont regret it.

The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and there may be hell to pay.

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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

by You Know in

several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

jerome

Cognitive dissonance is running its route.

Its only a matter of time before he can admit it to himself and then to everyone else.

jerome

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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

by You Know in

several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

jerome

In all the pointing fingers and sarcasm directed at YK (which is well deserved by the way) have you noticed something?

He is on his way to becoming an apostate!

Rember that question that they ask you and if you say no you are defed?

Do you beleive that the WTBS is Gods sole representative and channel of communication to men on earth?

Yes or No?

You Know is just one step away from that astounding NO!

He has reduced Jehovah's organisation to Spritual instead of visible.

All he has to do now is dismiss the Watchtower as the represetative of the spritual one and there you have it. You Know is apostate.

Shure took him a while though.

jerome

The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and there may be hell to pay.

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Cult?

by bchapp in

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friends

jw's claim they are not a cult because their kindom hall meetings are open to the public.

what are your thoughts on this?.

~seeking answers

jerome

yeah i realized that long time ago.

They`re always stressing on the food provided at the proper time by the FDS.

They set up themselves in the place of Christ so that people will have to go through them instead of having a personal relationship with God.

jerome

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Cult?

by bchapp in

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friends

jw's claim they are not a cult because their kindom hall meetings are open to the public.

what are your thoughts on this?.

~seeking answers

jerome

Get aaccoustomed to the term straw man when incountering statements and questions orignating from Jehovah's Witnesses.

Basicalically a straw man argument is a steriotypicall generalization of a given characteristic or datum like 'all apostates are liars'. Or the fundamential assumptions of the statement are in error.

Have you ever heard of the statement 'Garbage in Garbage out?'.

In a straw man argumet the fundamental assumptions are fallicy/garbage and when used to decern a logical conclusion you end up with more fallicy/garbage. Garbage in Garbage out.

A straw man argument is garbage to begin with cleverly disguised as a scientific statement. i.e pesudoscience. [fake science]

As sighted in above posts the sterotypicall generaliztion was that 'Cults do not allow everyone to come to their meetings.'

As pointed out above this is pure fallicy, simply because they are many cults that DO allow every/anyone one interested to come to their meetings. So this cannot be used as a distinguishing test for Cultic patterns with in an organisation. But it can be if it accurs in conjunction with other factors shuch involving anti-socal behaviour. Never the less it is fallicy.

Do not confuse this with secrective organisations such as Bin Ladens Alkeada which for obvious security reasons will not allow any and everybody to come to their meetings.

Moral:

Straw man arguments work by supplying you with Garbage and then expecting you to come to a sensible conclusion.
The result is that you are sent on a wild goose chase looking for a meaningfull anwser to a meangless question.

jerome