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  Can Spanish people recite the alphabet???

  by asilentone in

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  i met a fairly intelligent spanish woman today at starbucks.

  she also looks good, i taught her to do abc's (fingerspelling-sign language) her first language is spanish, she knows some pretty good english, but needs some more improvement on her english skills.

  she does not know abc's that good.

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  Quillsky

  Greetings, dear ASO... and may you have peace!
  
  While I did not take your post as racist (ummm... her "race" is "white", albeit hispanic), I have to agree that it is somewhat bigoted, on a couple/few levels... although perhaps merely nothing more than a [very] poor attempt to ask whether someone of another national origin might be illiterate (and that does appear to be the case). It is easy to see why it may have been offensive to some; however, I do get that you most probably would have the same concern (illiteracy), regardless of the woman's national origin.
  
  What concerns me MORE is your comment that:
  
  She does look very good, but I am not sure if we are compatible. Wait and see.
  
  First, looks can be deceiving, dear one. In addition, it is merely an affectation... as is hearing. Meaning, "she" could very well conclude that YOU are deficient because YOU do not hear audibly. Wouldn't THAT be sad, however, given that you are as good as anyone else... regardless of the limitations of your flesh? But then you follow that with:
  
  I think I would prefer someone that is more intelligent than that.
  
  Intelligence has little to do with literacy, dear one. There are HIGHLY intelligent people who can't read. True, many of them become criminals, but they aren't stupid, per se. Also, there are very literate people... who aren't intelligent. Not by a long shot. Just because someone can recognize a few letters, even strung together to make words, phrases, sentences, etc., doesn't mean they COMPREHEND what those symbols are communicating.
  
  I think the comments from the others may have given you pause and reason to think on what you posted. But I would ask you to take it a step further and ask yourself WHY. Why did YOU feel that this woman was, in ANY way... "inferior"... to you... or anyone else... simply because she may not be able to read... yet. Or that if she didn't "look good," you would have counted THAT against her, as well.
  
  Because that IS what you've communicated to us, here.
  
  I bid you peace.
  
  A slave of Christ,
  
  SA

  It hurt my eyes to read that missive from the slave of Christ.
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  Anyone done the Landmark Forum?

  by avatar in

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  i am scheduled to do it next month.. if you have completed the training:.

  - what did you get out of it?.

  - knowing what you know now (post completion) what would you tell others or have done differently to prepare?.

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  Here are the Landmark Forum's 'seven commandments' for being an extraordinary person, and this is what your late, late night weekend will be all about.....

  · Be Racket-Free: give up being right - even when you know you were.

  · Be Powerful: be straight in your communication and take what you get.

  · Be Courageous: acknowledge your fear (not necessarily get rid of it) and then act.

  · Be Peaceful: give up the interpretation that there's something wrong.

  · Be Charismatic: give up trying to get somewhere. Be entirely fulfilled in the present moment.

  · Be Enrolling: share your new possibilities in such a way that others are touched, moved and inspired.

  · Be Unreasonable: in expectations of yourself and others beyond what you would think they are capable of.

  Note the "be enrolling" part. That's cultish.
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  Anyone done the Landmark Forum?

  by avatar in

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  i am scheduled to do it next month.. if you have completed the training:.

  - what did you get out of it?.

  - knowing what you know now (post completion) what would you tell others or have done differently to prepare?.

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  Quillsky

  Landmark is cult-like.

  Disclaimer: I haven't attended so my advice is second-hand, but gathered from people close to me and other people I know, and subsequent research. I HAVE been to a Landmark recruitment/graduation event.

  The Forum is okay and has some good teachings as well as some pretty scary ones. For example, calling people at 11pm to make amends isn't socially normal.

  If you get involved in the next levels it moves to psychologically scary. If you don't recruit new participants you are asked "what is wrong with YOU that you didn't make those phone calls today?" That's why I attended a recruitment event, invited by someone I barely know. The poor guy, he was so shy but caught up in the cult of it. He's moved on now, thank goodness.

  So my advice would be that if you've already paid then go ahead and take the first course (Forum) with a skeptical mind, and take what you can from it. But DON'T invite your family and friends to the "graduation" event (part of the Landmark recruitment process) and don't attend a second course.
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  Beware of the Strawman argument!

  by Farkel in

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  years ago before i took the time and effort to study logic and argumentation, i went to a market and bought some toothpaste.

  it was a little-known brand and it touted "baking soda" as its magic ingredient.

  it was also cheaper than the name-brand toothpastes and that helped me in my decision.

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  If this site is a haven/church/kingdom hall for people of your opinion and you cannot tolerate any view that differs to yours (seeing them as disruptive) you may want to talk to Simon and get him to make it less public and more in line with your ideal?

  This simply doesn't make any sense in my universe.

  This site isn't a church and most posters tolerate differing views. So it fits the ideal of posters at the moment.
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  A letter to my parents stating I dont believe in the Org anymore.

  by cyberjesus in

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  i just sent this letter to my dad 3 days ago.

  i roughly translated it from spanish, so it has many weird sounding sentences but i just wanted to shared it with the board.

  practically i just say good-bye to my family.

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  DNCall, are you serious?

  Your letter should be Exhibit "A" to the contention, mostly advanced in Europe, that Jehovah's Witnesses undermine families.

  The fact that he even HAD to write that letter shows that the religion undermines families.
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  Blackness. If the JW religion is a majority black religion, is this a majority black board?

  by Quillsky in

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  before anyone asks whether it's important.... no it's not, it's just interesting..

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  Quillsky

  I like what you're saying, StAnn, and I'm personally against the concept of "race" for many reasons. But I still think it's interesting to discuss whether JW's and ex-JW's skew towards people who identify themselves as black.
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  Do You Consider Yourself An "Apostate"?

  by minimus in

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  even by watchtower's standards?

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  Quillsky

  I don't buy into the term as used by Jehovah's Witnesses, and certainly don't buy into all of the baggage they sell along with the word "apostate".
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  My Family

  by alice.in.wonderland in

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  to those that have accused me of insensitivity about abuse:.

  my father and his brother and sisters were raised by a man who became rich in the 1950s.

  he owned a construction company during a housing boom in a metropolitan area.

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  Quillsky

  Every time I make the mistake the mistake of clicking on this thread I regret it.
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  Did you personally shun anybody? Experiences?

  by Quillsky in

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  i'll never forget being at a restaurant and seeing a df'ed witness, a previous friend, leaving the restaurant.. i watched him through the window, looked him in the eye and raised my hand, a bit, to say "hi".

  i felt guilty doing it but at the same time it seemed like the only right thing to do..

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  Quillsky

  So did nobody practise shunning of anyone?
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  Did you personally shun anybody? Experiences?

  by Quillsky in

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  i'll never forget being at a restaurant and seeing a df'ed witness, a previous friend, leaving the restaurant.. i watched him through the window, looked him in the eye and raised my hand, a bit, to say "hi".

  i felt guilty doing it but at the same time it seemed like the only right thing to do..

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  Quillsky

  blondie......

  I had to train several df'd jws and had no problem.

  What special female role were you in?