i would have gotten baptized a long time ago around 20 years old of course...to where i would have helped out at Bethel a long time ago...
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Quillsky
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It's official--I'm out.
by sd-7 in"sd-7 is no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.".
i always imagined this day would come.
i'm not sure exactly how i knew.
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Please accept my unreserved apologies, sd-7 and jamiebowers.
I'd like to give two explanations (not excuses for being rude, just clarifications). Firstly, using the word "afterglow" didn't have sexual intent, although I can understand how it was interpreted in that way. It was a clumsy metaphorical reference to the way one excuses the words or actions of a fellow poster that you feel closer to after having spoken to or met them, or even just having communicated more personally with them by PM. I've done it, met people in real life or become close to them in some way, and then their posts take on a more "warm and fuzzy" feeling for me afterwards.
Secondly, I was thinking about another thread (or two or three maybe) where you, sd-7, were speaking quite a bit about sort of hoping your wife of 3 or 4 months would leave you. I put myself in your wife's shoes and felt extremely sad for her, still do, and it painted a poor portrait of you in my eyes. Then Jamie supported you a lot on that thread, and I felt she was trying to excuse the inexcusable - a young marriage needs both partners to be working together, not having the man think of how to escape it so early on.
With my bulletproof jacket still on, I apologize to both of you for pain, anger, discomfort and annoyance that my hastily typed words caused.
(And I'm not a 20 year old boy, if anyone cares.)
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How do they decide who is to be part of the Governing Body?
by Quillsky inso to be part of the faithful and discreet slave you just have to sip the wine on memorial night, right?.
then can you go up to brooklyn and say "i'm a member of the faithful slave and now i want to be a member of the governing body"?.
or how does it work?
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So to be part of the faithful and discreet slave you just have to sip the wine on Memorial night, right?
Then can you go up to Brooklyn and say "I'm a member of the faithful slave and now I want to be a member of the Governing Body"?
Or how does it work? Anyone have an idea how those guys are appointed?
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How many excommunicated Catholics do you personally know?
by poppers ini grew up catholic and i never knew any; still don't.
and i can't think of any catholic i know who personally knows any.
compare this to how many disfellowshipped jws you personally know..
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This is a very interesting question, thanks for raising it Poppers.
When I have raised the issue of (totally unscriptural, inhumane, and harshly applied) disfellowshipping with JW's, almost always the inane response has been along the lines of "but Catholics do it too".
(Funny how what Catholics do is hauled out to support a cult policy but everything else Catholics do is "Babylon the Great".)
I have never met or heard of an excommunicated Catholic. I have experienced one incident of Catholic shunning, only a once-off occasion. A relative of mine married a Catholic who was divorced, so one extremely devout Catholic couple refused to attend the wedding.
Very interesting this...... Catholic excommunication is spiritual, theoretical, about ones long-term destiny. Jehovah's Witness disfellowshipping is tangible, practical, monitored, and all about your day-to-day (non-)interaction with family members and friends.
Spot the cult.
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Have They Ever Given a Figure of How Many Are to Die at Armageddon?
by cameo-d inhas wt ever published a number of how many they expect to die at armageddon?.
will it bring the population down to the georgia guidestones advice for a manageable level?.
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Oh god I detest the cult language so much. No wonder this religion despises education, since no academic writings would allow shit like this to go unchallenged ......
w95 1/15 p. 28 Assembling With Those Who Fear God ***"However, is it not logical that those who die in our day would be resurrected early in order to share with the great crowd of Armageddon survivors in the immense educational work that is to take place throughout Judgment Day? Yes, indeed!"
"is it not logical....." NO, it's not logical, nothing about your convoluted cultic apocalyptic sentence is logical by any definition of the word.
"Yes, indeed!" Um no, not indeed at all. That's not a reason to state that those who die in "our day" will be resurrected early in order to participate in the immense [fantasy] education work. Anyway, where are the scriptures to support this great leap of logic?
I'm so mad right now, and grateful I don't have a Jehovah's Witness CD-ROM or else I would cause some damage to the glass in my home. Please, PLEASE, those of you who are trapped in this cult, get out now.
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iknowall558, please think twice before giving a blaming retrospective of your life's mistakes on a thread called "What advice would you give to your 20 year old self?" And please think hard about what advice you would give to your young self. Take blame out of it, see what is left, and use that going forward.
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Do not ever get married!
No, I don't agree, 144,001.
But here's the thing. DON'T EVER GET MARRIED FOR SEX.
That's the worst possible reason to get married as a 20-year-old.
Get married because you have met the person who pulls, lifewise, in the same direction as you. Get married because you have a partner who thrills you. Get married because you want to be with someone who shares the same life goals as you, a person who talks your language in every way.
Don't ever get married to have sex. (Rather just have sex if you want to.)
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Would You Like WatchTower Better if They Open a Soup Kitchen or Charity Thrift Store?
by cameo-d ini see over and over so many times jws and x-jws alike complaining about wt's lack of charity work.
it almost seems to imply that wt would be an ok religion if only they opened a soup kitchen or had some charity pet project.. do you really think that a food bank would reconcile all of the sins of that organization?.
would you be more inclined to accept wt teachings if only they would do something to help "needy people"?.
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OTWO said:
Instead of just going to help out, they said members needed to be "approved" by their regional building committee to go help Katrina victims- "Don't just go and lend a hand. And stop donating 'stuff.' What we need is money- MONEY MONEY MONEY.
Heart breaking stuff. What a cult.
During Haiti all I saw from the Watchtower Society was "send money for the Worldwide Work". They never even had the decency to say anything like "We'll document what we spend in helping the people of Haiti so you'll know how your funds have been spent", nothing like that.
Bless all the dear open-hearted individual Witnesses who sent money.
Curse the cold-hearted closed-minded self-serving Governing Body and all their enablers.
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Would You Like WatchTower Better if They Open a Soup Kitchen or Charity Thrift Store?
by cameo-d ini see over and over so many times jws and x-jws alike complaining about wt's lack of charity work.
it almost seems to imply that wt would be an ok religion if only they opened a soup kitchen or had some charity pet project.. do you really think that a food bank would reconcile all of the sins of that organization?.
would you be more inclined to accept wt teachings if only they would do something to help "needy people"?.
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Would You Like WatchTower Better if They Open a Soup Kitchen or Charity Thrift Store?
Yes.
Yes.
I have so many But But Buts but the real bottom line is that I would like the Watchtower organization better yes, if they reached out in this present life, this current world, in a real way.
I wouldn't rejoin the religion for that reason, but I would be less vocal about my aversion and antipathy.
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Have They Ever Given a Figure of How Many Are to Die at Armageddon?
by cameo-d inhas wt ever published a number of how many they expect to die at armageddon?.
will it bring the population down to the georgia guidestones advice for a manageable level?.
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Here is the math.....
Slaughtered at Armageddon will be approximately 7 billion people, less 7 million active Jehovah's Witness "publishers", plus JW publishers who have a Bad Heart Condition ™, minus those who attend the Reject-Jesus Memorial who have a Good Heart Condition ™, minus those who have never had the opportunity to hear the Good News of the Watchtower Kingdom.
That leaves us with just under 7 billion humans killed by God.
This is complicated by the fact that just after Armageddon everybody who has ever lived (except perhaps those who lived in the towns of Gomorrah and Sodom, but the Watchtower is not clear on this) will be resurrected. Current actuarial estimates place this number at more or less equal to the number of people who are currently alive, 6 to 7 billion.
So the nett result will be that after Armageddon there will be approximately the same number of people alive as there are today, and about the same proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses as are alive today. The Jehovah's Witnesses will then have to witness to all the resurrected ones.
Sounds like Groundhog Day to me, but throw in "I see dead people".