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  Special Talk 2012 - Sierra Squared, Delta Squared

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  Further Education and the Special Assembly Day

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  i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.

  what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.

  better late then never though.

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  New Elders' Book - I have been brazen.....

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  calling all recent and former elders - how many times have you felt like this?

  - many many times for me...... .

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  The trouble with fading as your leaving strategy

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  whatever your chosen strategy for leaving jws, the fundamental truth is that there is no clean / simple exit.

  the mind control, the manipulation of normal family relationships etc will make any strategy very difficult at times.

  the key issue is to know this ahead of time and be prepared, as best you can.. we've all chosen leaving strategies acording to our personal circumstances, preferences and learning from others.

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  How do you cope with a zealous JW wife?

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  i've been out for a little while now - fading was my chosen strategy.

  before then, elder for around 20 years - all the usual stuff.. why leave?

  (1) reading other material and thinking for yourself - never too late (2) couldn't stomach any more judicial committees where i had to preside over handing out edicts that were going to wreck peoples' lives (3) final realisation that i'm not going to let my children die because of the false 'blood' interpretation (4) nail in the coffin, which opened my eyes to the 'rotteness at the core' of the organisation, was the deliberate mis-quoting of scientists and others, to make a lie seem like truth.. anyway, my wife (both pioneered together) is as zealous as ever - more so now.

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  How can they still believe it?

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  i've been watching this site for some time now - it's been a real help - but only recently started to post.

  part of the journey i suppose.. 3rd generation jw, served as an elder for > 20 years, talks at dc, pioneer etc - started to fade in last 12 months - will post my story sometime.. anyway, occasionally i still go to a meeting to keep my zealous jw wife away from the elders.. at a recent public talk, the speaker referred to 'millions now living will never die', and said:.

  although 'premature', this proclamation was made by zealous anointed ones i.e.

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