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  Requirements for Watch Tower Reader

  by garlic81 in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone know the requirements that should be met for someone to have this privilege?

  i have been added to the list and don't feel i meet the requirements..

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  Once in a while privileges are given out to "encourage" the brothers to do more.
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  this weeks watchtower---Please Comment

  by TheLoveDoctor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  unity identifies true worship........ comments on these 3 paragraghs.

  7 the one source of spiritual instruction first-century christians enjoyed unity because they all received encouragement from the same source.

  they recognized that jesus was teaching and directing the congregation through a governing body, composed of the apostles and older men in jerusalem.

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  This spiritual food is based on God’s Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah

  Hmm... According to that logic we could say:

  All Chrisitian Religions are based on God's Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah...
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  Throwing a wet blanket on 2034

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a few occasions i've heard suggestions of 2034 as the "date", since it is 120 years after 1914; just like noah's time.. it looks to me like the governing body is being pro-active in preventing this in becoming a date that is speculated on.. the dec 15, 2010 wt (printed version) has an interesting qfr, asking if noah had knowledge of the 120 years.

  the answer was: noah didn't know about the 120 year time period, but that didn't matter to him because he knew it was coming and kept busy.

  i don't currently have the printed copy handy but can post a few quotes from it later on (unless someone else has it handy).. just thought it was interesting.

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  urrmmm..... 2001 years

  O_o I think it's time to upgrade my math skills...
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  Source material for elders school

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  elders & ms have been told to study the following material before the school.. elders.......... organised to do gods will (od) chapter 7. shepherd the flock of god (ks10) chapters 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11. benefit from theocratic education pages 47-51. ministerial servants........ organised to do gods will (od) pages 78-83 & 93-102 & chapter 7. benefit from theocratic education (be) pages 47-51. .

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  Do MS get to sit in on the Elder parts that talk about Judicial Hearings?

  MS only get one day of the school. The Elder specific stuff is not on that day.
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  Conscious Class: Do you still go in field service?

  by brotherdan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there are some of the "conscious class" on the board (i.e.

  yknot, miseryloveselders,elderelite,etc...) do you guys still go in the field ministry?

  and if so, what do you focus on?

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  Well, I just came to accept the fact that I'm in the hyprocrite class. I still do field service in a non-attention drawing manner (ie. hours not to low to draw any need for "encouragement" and not too succesfull so as not cultivate interest in the field). Based on the experiences here I think I'm going to be in the hypocrite class for quite a while if I want to be able to make inroads with my family before i share my true feelings. The only reason I'd come out earlier is if the mental strain gets too much too bear, or showstopper issues arise (shunning/blood). So far it seems manageable...
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  Throwing a wet blanket on 2034

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a few occasions i've heard suggestions of 2034 as the "date", since it is 120 years after 1914; just like noah's time.. it looks to me like the governing body is being pro-active in preventing this in becoming a date that is speculated on.. the dec 15, 2010 wt (printed version) has an interesting qfr, asking if noah had knowledge of the 120 years.

  the answer was: noah didn't know about the 120 year time period, but that didn't matter to him because he knew it was coming and kept busy.

  i don't currently have the printed copy handy but can post a few quotes from it later on (unless someone else has it handy).. just thought it was interesting.

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  On an unrelated note, 2034 is 1001 years after christ's death.
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  Are the numbers accurate?

  by Joshinaz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they claim they are 7 million and growing.

  is this true?

  i haven't been to a meeting in 12 years but i know of at least 100 people i grew up with that have left the congregation.

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  The 15 minutes minimum field service (vs the 1 hour) is not really a big deal. It would have made a one time difference in the year it was introduced, and I don't remember a dramatic spike around then. Unlike most religions, JWs only counts those who actively report, so I'd say the "average publishers" number is quite accurate.

  Most of the growth seems to be in the foreign language speaking congregations and countries that haven't yet reached their natural saturation point yet. I have seen good growth among immigrants with very little growth among native english speakers.
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  If You Had To Have A Religion Which Would You Not Mind Belonging To?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  if you were even born into a religion, would you feel that you had to get out?

  ( the only religion that i know of where people get out and often never go to any other religion is the jw religion)..

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  Humanism
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  How long until the WT Society gives "new light" about the Internet?

  by DagothUr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower and awake have given some warnings in the past concerning materials available via the internet.

  apostate and porn sites, violent games, useless and frivolous entertainment, and so on.

  for now, they are contended with just giving friendly warnings.

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  I don't think "new light" is really an appropriate phrase here since it generally implies a new sriptural understanding.

  I think the warnings about the internet/facebook may eventually become less often. TV used to be demonized a lot and now it's hardly mentioned.
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  Throwing a wet blanket on 2034

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a few occasions i've heard suggestions of 2034 as the "date", since it is 120 years after 1914; just like noah's time.. it looks to me like the governing body is being pro-active in preventing this in becoming a date that is speculated on.. the dec 15, 2010 wt (printed version) has an interesting qfr, asking if noah had knowledge of the 120 years.

  the answer was: noah didn't know about the 120 year time period, but that didn't matter to him because he knew it was coming and kept busy.

  i don't currently have the printed copy handy but can post a few quotes from it later on (unless someone else has it handy).. just thought it was interesting.

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  Boy Who Cried Wolf

  Or perhaps "The Wolf who cried 'Oh Boy'"