Posts by pirata
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Question #9 of this week's "oral review" of DVD "Faith In Action"...
by Alfred inthis week, the service meeting will have an oral review of the dvd faith in action which was distributed in the 2010 district assembly worldwide... as many of you probably know, the intent of this dvd is to present a "white-washed" version of the history of the watchtower by omitting all the scandals and cover-ups.... i no longer go to meetings, but i would have loved to raise my hand and answer question #9 which reads: "what did the bible students expect would happen in 1914?".
my response would have been the following:.
even though the geoffrey jackson admits that the bible students expected a "heavenly reward", the dvd avoids mentioning that russell categorically predicted armageddon would come in october of 1914. what's even worse is the fact that the narrator lied on two occasions by saying that the bible students expected or reasoned that jesus would take the throne in 1914. this is completely false.
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This one's a bit of a challenge to answer.
Previous to 1904, there's pretty strong statements that 1914's going to be the end of a time of trouble culminating in universal anarchy, the restoration of the Jews/Jerusalem, the resurrection of the prophets, the 144,000 going to heaven, etc.
After 1904, and more so as the years got closer to 1914, he continued to back-pedal, and changed his tune to state that 1914 would see the start of a time of great trouble.
So, they're not lying exactly if the question they're addressing is "What were the Bible Students expecting to happen in the 5 or so years before 1914". But if they question was, "what were the bible students expecting to happen in the 20 years leading up to 1914", then things get messy.
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Is everyone entitled to their opinion?
by Dogpatch ini thought this was a very good quote from seth godin's daily blog: .
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04/is-everyone-entitled-to-their-opinion.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed%3a+typepad%2fsethsmainblog+%28seth%27s+blog%29.
is everyone entitled to their opinion?perhaps, but that doesn't mean we need to pay the slightest bit of attention.. there are two things that disqualify someone from being listened to:.
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That's just Seth Godin's opinion...
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Regular pioneers to be nominated by BOE
by yalbmert99 inapparently the regular pioneers will be nominated by the body of elders, not bethel.
however, elders will have to send bethel a notification when a pioneer is nominated or removed..
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The local body of elders will approve, not nominate, regular pioneer applications.
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My Dream Has Come True latest tower last page
by therevealer in"my dream has come true" i have a bullshite story in the latest watchtower..
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Please give concrete examples.
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Love & Living up to Dedication = Serving Abroad & Not Going to University (July 15, 2012 WT)
by pirata inlooks like there's a new series, "they offered themselves willingly".
here's how it opens:.
a young brother in italy was under pressure.
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Looks like there's a new series, "They Offered Themselves Willingly"
Here's how it opens:
A YOUNG brother in Italy was under pressure. He had just graduated from high school with the highest grades in his class, and now relatives and teachers were urging him to pursue higher education. Some years earlier, though, Bruno had dedicated himself to Jehovah, promising to put God’s will foremost in his life. What choice did he make? He explains: “I told Jehovah in prayer that I would live up to my dedication and put him first. But I honestly added in my prayer that I wanted, not a dull life, but one filled with a variety of activities in his service.”
The remainder of the article has many experiences of young ones to moved to other lands to preach (check out jw.org to read the rest)
It ends with:
WHAT ABOUT YOU?
Young brothers and sisters, do your circumstances allow you to serve in a land where there is a greater need for Kingdom proclaimers? Of course, making a big decision like that will require careful planning. Above all else, a strong love for Jehovah and neighbor is necessary for such a move. If you have that love and otherwise qualify, pray earnestly to Jehovah about this matter of serving abroad. Further, talk to your Christian parents and the congregation elders about your desire. You may come to the conclusion that you too can have a share in this exciting and satisfying form of sacred service.
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How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?
by slimboyfat init's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.
there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.
but they have to deal with it one way or another.
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1. My votes for this. I doubt the Governing Body will every make another date prediction, it's burned the organization too many times in the past.
5. An article last year stated that the 120 years has no significance: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/201505/1/Throwing-a-wet-blanket-on-2034
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Where is Outlaw?
by Iamallcool inhe is one of my favorite posters, i look him up from time to time.
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Outlaw...
We are waiting for you....
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The Flood - ? So how did kangaroos get to Australia? How come they are no where else?
by BroMac in*** w62 1/15 p. 64 questions from readers ***.
questions from readers.
how can we account for animals in isolated lands when the flood is said to have covered all the earth and the only land animals that survived were those in the ark?p.
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Why bother to explain it scientifically. Evidently God brought the animals to Noah, Noah herded them on the ark, God also prevented the animals from eating each other or having too many bowel movements. After the flood, God quickly restored the natural habitat required by animals, and put them back. He also created pockets of freshwater that did not mix with the saltwater so that freshwater marine animals wouldn't die.
Now that begs the question, wouldn't it have been easier for God to send an angel and kill all the bad people instead of drowning billions of animals?
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Were Elders told to mention the Faithful Slave / Governing Body / Organization more?
by pirata inas of 5 years ago in my congregation, the "faithful slave" was rarely mentioned in talks, prayers, etc.
usually it was all about jehovah, and jesus got his token phrase at the end of a prayer with "in jesus name, amen".. now, in the past couple years i've noticed, especially since the elders have gone to the elders school, almost everytime an elder prays, and in many of the talks, there is mention of the faithful slave, organization, or governing body.
"thank you jehovah for giving us your organization, which provides us food at the proper time", "how thankful we are that the faithful slave provides..", etc.. for any elders who went to the elders school, did they specifically say to build more appreciation in the organization, faithful slave, etc.
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As of 5 years ago in my congregation, the "Faithful Slave" was rarely mentioned in talks, prayers, etc. Usually it was all about Jehovah, and Jesus got his token phrase at the end of a prayer with "In Jesus Name, Amen".
Now, in the past couple years I've noticed, especially since the elders have gone to the elders school, almost everytime an elder prays, and in many of the talks, there is mention of the faithful slave, organization, or Governing Body. "Thank you Jehovah for giving us your organization, which provides us food at the proper time", "How thankful we are that the Faithful Slave provides..", etc.
For any elders who went to the elders school, did they specifically say to build more appreciation in the organization, faithful slave, etc. in prayers and talks?
