Awesome introduction. Glad to see you here.
Adiva
i've been lurking here for a year or two now (since i stumbled across ttatt and was stumbled by it), i even started an account some while back and asked a couple of questions.. but i never actually stood up and said hi... so hi, my name's jon and i'm a dubaholic.. .
i was "born in" in the 80s - and grew up on a liquid diet of cheap suits and revelation book pictures (i mean really, group after group just staring at the pictures while not listening, i must have spent more time staring at those pictures than i have any work of art in my life, literally hours at each lurid picture).
i "left" in my teens, but apparently lacking any kind of actual sense, returned to studying with a childhood friend from the congregation in my twenties (although i was never baptised, my entire small family were dubs, so i saw more witnesses than "worldly people" on a regular basis.. they love bombed my arse for years!)..
Awesome introduction. Glad to see you here.
Adiva
Happy Birthday! Do it up Right!!
Adiva
just had the circuit assembly this weekend here:.
surprisingly not much fuss over the new bible considering that this was the first meeting for most here to use it (the annual meeting was "invite only" for a select few here, and there was no thursday meeting because of this assembly) and having a new bible was only referred to fairly briefly in a comment about how "wonderful" it is (and in the closing prayer).
i think i was the only one there with an old maroon nwt - i got a confused look from one of the elders - haha!
Recycled Chazerai (garbage). I remember the speaker at one circuit assembly saying jws want to PASS. Prayer, Association, Study, Service.
Guess now they're Pass(ing) the SPAM.
Adiva
i may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.
once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.
" they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.
Just when I think I'm 'over it', something happens to open the wound. It doesn't hurt as much as it used to but, it still hurts. And the hurt doesn't last as long as it used to. Kinda like Michael Corleone, 'just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in'.
Adiva
greetings, soup lovers:.
i have a huge kitchen at my disposal (not my own); vegetables, cans of this and that and spices are scattered about, prepared to go into a cauldron of minestrone i started a few days ago.
i'm preparing ahead so as to freeze the leftovers to heat up later at home over my hotplate.. nothing like a 6-burner gas range to simmer over!.
I make soup and stock all the time. I keep the end pieces of veggies and throw them in a plastic bag that goes into my freezer. I collect chicken wing tips and use them to make soup base. I don't buy stock and broth. Too easy to make my own.
Adiva
my dear granny hasn't been feeling well for some time and has had a problem keeping anything down.
she had lost a lot of weight and gone for many tests.
those tests came back and on friday we were told she has cancer of the pancreas.
Lovely memories you have. Remember, the Love you shared never dies.
Adiva
so for those who got baptized....a question for you:.
did you feel any different?
in the talk prior to taking the plunge, we were told that baptism would would show that we're in subjection to jehovah, so that we could do his will...personally, i felt that somehow i'd have a greater urge to do more spiritually, but i didn't..the feeling wore off in a couple days, and i still had the desire to do college ect...my attitude about life didn't change.... how did ya'll feel after your baptism in the borg?.
What'd I feel? Bupkis.
Adiva
it's called quitting jehovah's witnesses & other cults: how to do it & why you should, and i hope you'll check it out.
i wrote it because other books seemed to focus on personal experiences (boring, irrelevant) or doctrinal discussion of why i should convert to some other religion (boring, irrelevant and insulting).
anyway, it's an ebook, it's free, and it's out today..
Wonderful! Mazel Tov!!
Downloaded, will read and review. The more books out there, the better.
Adiva
i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.
i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?
also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!
Hi Demokan and Welcome.
Take your time. Comatose gave some great advice: don't get baptized and study -- hard. You'll want to go to college to really develop the critical thinking skills you'll need for the rest of your life. Damn! I wish somebody had said that to me. But, no real regrets. I live a great life despite being a 'born in'.
As for your sister, I truly understand your feelings. I had a 15 year old nephew get baptized a few months ago. You have no idea how much it hurt my heart. He shows such promise. Anyway, about your sister. It hurts me to say it but, there's not a thing you can do about her. You can 'nudge' her along and ask try and get her to talk about it without using watchtower terminology, in her Own words. However, this is her path and just as she cannot walk yours, you can't walk hers.
Best thing you can do is take care of You, without disrespecting your folks of course. I look forward to hearing more from you.
Adiva
ever since i was a little boy i've been aware of this vague story about my older sister having some issues at birth, but never knew the details.. yesterday i was having a conversation with a much older cousin, who is a non-practicing jw about different watchtower issues.
while discussing the blood issue she totally came out with the story about my sister, which i never knew before.. when my sister was born some 40 years ago, my mother had the delivery at home with the help of a midwife.
i'm not entirely sure why this decision was made instead of going to a hospital.
I remember my mom being pregnant when I was about 4. She didn't come home with a baby. I found out a few years ago from my aunt that the little girl died because of the blood issue. If I were in a better place with my parents, I'd certainly ask my mom about it. Stephanie was her name.
Adiva