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  I went to a Unitarian church today

  by crownboy in

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  (wow, simon, did you steal microsoft word software or something?

  well, today i did something that in most years past i would have believed would have resulted in me being struck by lightning; i attended a religious service other than the jw's.

  this is the first time i've ever been to another religious service.

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  Weeeellllllll-even when I typed that, I wasn't sure if the Unitarian Church could definitively called "Christian". I guess I meant more "mainstream"?? Though there are probably Unitarians that ARE Christian, personally. That's what I always appreciated-the LACK of group-think and the abundance of self-examination, I guess.

  Wendy-Happy Anniversary back atcha-a day late! We're going to settle in to watch a James Bond movie with the kids (we've been watching them in order.) If we decide to go really nuts, we'll pop some popcorn <G>

  Jewel
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  How Many States / Countrys Are Represented Here?

  by Big Jim in

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  i am from houston texas myself.

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  Jewel

  Iowa-about ten minutes west of the Mississippi River.
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  I went to a Unitarian church today

  by crownboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (wow, simon, did you steal microsoft word software or something?

  well, today i did something that in most years past i would have believed would have resulted in me being struck by lightning; i attended a religious service other than the jw's.

  this is the first time i've ever been to another religious service.

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  Jewel

  OK, let me get this straight...The people asked the questions and the speaker answered them? And they got to ask any question they wanted? And lightning didn't strike you all down???

  Seriously, we were married by a wonderful Unitarian minister (18 years ago today to be exact, thank you very much!) She let us write what we wanted, she read a piece of "worldly" poetry that we'd found. She asked us some meaningful and pointed questions in a couple of meetings we had with her before the wedding. I've always said that if I ever wanted to go to another Christian church it would probably be Unitarian
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  Topics You Will Never See on Witness Zone

  by belbab in

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  following reborn 2002s post earlier with a link to witness zone, i came to an interesting thread there.

  it has 574 replies to it.

  this thread was started by hey jude 2222 and is called what are some topics that for a certainty we will never see posted here on the witness zone?.

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  Jewel

  Well, my husband wasn't a Witness and today is our 18th wedding anniversary. Can't imagine my life without him.
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  A Timely warning regarding Disfellowshipping. A Mu

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  i have been disfellowshipped for 2 weeks.

  my story the shortened version.. i left the organisation 2years 2 months ago.

  i live 25 miles from the kingdom hall that i attended for 29 years, man and boy.

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  Jewel

  "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..."

  Leia Organa in _Star Wars_

  (Beat ya to it, Arachnia!)

  Jewel
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  Too much bad language, sex & pics

  by Simon in

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  please can everyone think twice before they make posts containing bad language (even if not directed at individuals), graphic sex talk and nude or semi-nude pictures (especially if explicit).

  this is not what the forum is here for.

  if you want to post stuff like that then there are lots of places on the internet for it and, more importantly, if people want to see and read stuff like that then they are quite capable of going to these places themselves.. i know everyone likes to 'let their hair down' now and again, me included, and i like pictures of sexy women as much as anyone .

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  I was going to try to say something wise and meaningful, but Lady Lee did it first and better.

  Thanks, Simon!
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  finally got my thoughts gathered to share......

  by scootergirl in

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  i am relatively new to the board and have to say have never had such a heartwarming welcome from so many people!

  it feels so comforting to make new friends that "understand" where i have come from.. i have read many many stories, and have sat back in awe....wow, what stories.

  mine is quite simple, but none-the-less my story.

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  Hugs from me, too.

  I thought I'd dealt with everything-I've been out for a long time, but when I started to write it down I was suddenly dealing with it all again...

  Take your time.

  Jewel
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  Fainting, seizures, vomiting - help!

  by Mimilly in

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  my oldest daughter, beth, had her second episode yesterday and i'm now officially worried and am looking for someone in the medical community or someone who recognizes these symptoms.. her very first seizure was a febrile seizure, due to a high temp when she was a year old.

  i doubt this has anything to do with the present stuff.. a few months ago, she fainted at work and seizured on the stairs, was taken by ambulance to the er.

  she came home looking beat up from banging her head on the stairs, with a mild concussion.. yesterday, when she went to get on the bus, she felt it coming on again, and while she was able to somehow ward of the 'seizure', she blacked out before she could pay her fare.

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  I agree-a neurologist ASAP. My family has a history of intracranial aneurysms. My brother had one that burst at which point the drs. decided it WAS hereditary (my father died of one.)

  Anyway, I was scheduled for an MRI pretty promptly, but the dr. told me to watch for dizzyness, vomiting, sudden head pain, or "black outs"

  My brother had emergency surgery and is, amazingly, fine. My MRI was negative (my husband says they checked my brain and didn't find anything.) But-nothing to mess with-don't let them put you off.

  Jewel
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  Second death-what does it REALLY mean?

  by FRUSR8TD in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in this thread... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28021&site=3.

  bleep said:.

  how can you be suffering when your dead?.

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  >>>>Before the earth was created he made some spirit creatures. Oh and then he made man. Man wanted a woman. Now we seem to have an order of things going on here. God > Jesus > other spirits > man > woman > child > animals. Each one must obey God first before all others.<<<<

  Actually, the order of creation according to the Bible goes like this:

  God (where did HE come from? That's probably a question for another post)

  Jesus

  Other Spirits

  earth

  light and dark/Day and Night (though where the light's coming from I'm not clear because we aren't going to get to the sun for a little while yet...)

  aptmosphere (the "expanse")

  seas/dry land

  vegetation

  sun/moon (so the sun was created AFTER the earth???? and AFTER the earth was swarming with vegetation???? what about the whole photosynthesis thing???)

  water creatures/flying creatures

  land creatures

  man

  woman

  Now if you are saying that spiritual superiority is linked to order of creation, then we-male and female alike-are WAAAYYY below pond scum, sea slugs, and earthworms.

  >>>>If say a man decides not to obey God; then the woman being the wife and also the child can break free<<<<

  I think the Freudian slip here is the "break free" part.

  As I recall, the WTBTS said (used to, anyway) that the second death was the death that happened after the Great Tribulation. If any of the resurrected dead or any of the survivors didn't toe the mark, they would suffer the second death which was a two-strikes-and-you're-out-forever oblivion

  edited because I couldn't spell "earthworms"
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  How do you explain it to your spouse?

  by buffy in

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  i've been w/ my husband for 2 years, married for 3 months.

  he knows what i went through going throught the df process.

  he saw the horrible time i had dealing w/ loosing my family.

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  I've been thinking about this and agree with what everybody has said. His caring is more important than his being able to understand completely.

  He doesn't need to be able to understand. No human can completely share the experiences of another. Even though my sister and I grew up together, we often had very different reactions to the same events. It's fascinating to hear another account of something and realize how differently she saw it.

  My husband also can't really understand what it is like to be a woman, or to carry a baby or labor for that matter (heck, he often complains about how TIRED he got--pfft!) I will never really know how it feels to be a man. That doesn't mean we can't love each other and experience the "other side" vicariously.

  On a lighter note, even the language is different. If I say "district assembly" to you, you get a complete picture-sights, smells, emotions, etc. A never-been-a-Witness would get a blank...

  "See, a bunch of congregations make a circuit. A bunch of circuits make a district. A district assembly is when all these congregations get together and listen to guys talk about God for five days. There's a morning session and then a break and an afternoon session and then a break and then an evening session (yeah, I know they're only a couple of days now and no evening session-you young wimps <G>)...

  Even with that he just can't get a picture of what it's REALLY like.