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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  Jewel

  Welcome, Halo!

  Jewel
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  "...of what value is being stressed and being upset day after day when have just a short time to live on earth?"

  EXACTLY!
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  Oh my god...let's see. A wonderful marriage (27 years...and the elders said marriage to a "worldly" man would never last) to my best friend. A great job that I love. I have three children who I love madly and who I like as (nearly) grown up people. I laugh about something nearly every day. I enjoy the seasons and the festivals honoring them. I think for myself and read what I want. I am not submissive to my husband...and he wouldn't have married me if I had been that kind of person. I'm happy, not afraid.

  How 'bout you?
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  ABSOLUTELY. Positively. I have no doubts whatsoever. I still wake up on Sunday mornings thankful that I don't have to go to meeting. I still rejoice in my heart when my Mom goes to an assembly and I get to stay home and live my life. I am grateful every time my family puts up the Christmas tree with carols in the background and leftover Thanksgiving in the refrigerator. My life has been rich beyond belief BECAUSE I LEFT!
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  sincere question .....What could make you believe in God ?

  by caliber in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please discuss why you don't believe in god and that which could convince you to believe in god ??

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  Yeah, what Liberty and Ziddina said. And you might be surprised by how many of the "old gods/goddesses" are being worshipped. I remember the exact moment when it suddenly hit me, reading about the god of the OT, "If this guy exits, he doesn't deserve my worship." Scared me to death, but I knew it was true.
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  An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

  that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

  still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

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  @Outlaw...well, I wouldn't think fava beans and a nice chianti...maybe rice noodles and saki??
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  An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
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  estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

  that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

  still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

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  ..."The Most Holy One of Israel doesn't allow ANYONE to starve"...

  Whew...that'll be a huge relief to those kids in Somalia (or the Congo, or North Korea) who only THOUGHT they were starving!
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  Weird things JWs can't own or wear

  by lilbluekitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  also posted on the yuku forum.. i thought it might be amusing to make a list of things i remember when i was a dub that we couldn't have or own or wear.

  (some of these things vary by where you live, in other places dubs have them, it just depends).

  obviously the list goes on forever, but feel free to add things.

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  I got in trouble once as a teen because an elder spied a sci-fi book that I was reading and left laying on a table...2250 AD I think it was. Mom and I both got a lecture and then she went through my books and picked out a bunch that I was ordered to take out and burn in our burn-barrel. Some of them went, but I remeber chucking some under a big peony plant and then sneaking out after she was in bed and bringing them back in.

  Justification: we know what the future holds...Jah's New Order....
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  Hello--new to the witnesses...and you

  by LKM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to introduce myself.

  i went to the kh for the first time 2 weeks ago...and will go again tomorrow.

  i don't believe anything witnessy...(i was raised in the assembly of god church and now the closest thing i "do" with religion is yoga or sometimes the buddhist temple).... but the man i'm in love with is a df'd jw (we've been together for 6 years).... and he wants to get reinstated just to talk to his family again (i can assure you he does not believe it).... and he wants his family to accept me because we are about to get married... so, i'm going to meetings...its very interesting, but only because it shows me more about how he was raised.

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  5. he does not believe anything JW

  He is going to have to lie like crazy to get reinstated, then. I would think you'd have to get married and then he could try for reinstatement. But he is going to have to do more than just go to the occasional meeting...he's going to have to go to EVERY meeting. He's going to have to meet with the elders repeatedly. He's going to have to profess repentance, remorse and regret (over and over and over). He's going to have to study the Bible with someone.

  And then...you'll be back to what I wrote before. If his son is with you and you have birthday cards on a shelf or a Christmas tree or ANYTHING the least bit not allowed the deal will be up. The ex-wife will be asking the son to watch for this stuff and if he sees anything like this it will go to the elders. When I was early in my fade, they "blamed" my husband for some of that stuff (we had a Christmas tree, for instance). BUT that won't work for you. He will be expected to be head of the household and will be responsible for what you do. You will have to keep up this charade for as long as he doesn't want to be disfellowshipped again.

  AND it won't just be you...any children you have together will have to live like this as well. The only thing that makes being raised in this religion bearable is if you are a true believer. You will be asking your children to live like this EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T believe. Are you ready to tell any children you have together that they can't have a birthday party in case their stepbrother (or grandparents-bf's family) catch wind of it?
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  41,000 year old human jaw bone found

  by Mickey mouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  but but but....humans have only been around for 6000 years.

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  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15540464.

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  Jewel