Posts by Hortenzie

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Another new member here to share her experience

by One Last Kiss in

im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.

will try to be as succinct as possible!.

am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.

Hortenzie

Welcome OLK, I went through a similar process. The worst part was to find out that people, who I thought were my friends, didn't care about me. I stopped cold turkey after 15 years of full activity, and the only calls I got were from the BS conductor inquiring about my FS hours for the month. It took me another 7 years to fully stop believing that JW have the Truth. Finally now, I live happily WT-free and love it.

I wish you all the best on your journey and hope you get there much faster than I did.

As for your Mom, the only way she can live guilt-free and be happy is to prove to herself that what the WT teaches is NOT the truth.

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Christmas is WRONG!

by thesaint in

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you all should be ashamed of your egotistical selves.

how can you leave god's organization to celebrate the work of satan the devil?

it just goes to show you how jehovah's christian witnesses are correct about how persons will leave the truth for their own selfish desires.. first off, christmas is a pagan holiday and it proves no spirit with the almighty jehovah and his son, the christ.

Hortenzie

Blah, blah, blaaaah!...

... and what poppers said about your user name.

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My friend's Mom apologized to her kids for teaching them lies!

by Hortenzie in

she has been a witness most of her life.

her three kids were brought up as jw in a communist country and the whole family suffered reprisals from the regime for being in the org.

(father was well know elder).

Hortenzie

Wow. The response has been underwhelming (Sad face).

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Am I missing something here ?

by smiddy in

in ancient times , o.t.speak, god dealt with humans in a variety of ways , dreams ,visions ,prophets,and prophetesses , then apparently 2000 years ago he must have said, i`m not doing this anymore.they , my followers will just have to beleive and put faith in what has been written down up untill the 20th century of the common era.

approximately 4000 years of human history where god has communicated with humans .

if you beleive that .. their has been no communication between god , with any human , whether by dreams , visions , or prophets , for the past 2000 years.. and may i add, their has been no communication from jesus during these past 2000 years either, giving us enlightend /updates about his sayings /prophecys that he gave while on earth 2000 years ago.. please explain.. smiddy.

Hortenzie

Tec, I have been talking to God daily for more than 20 years, listening for answers, or any kind of communication from God, Jesus, Spirit, anyone... And... Nothing!

And don't say it's me, because I truly believed. (Now, not so much).

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My friend's Mom apologized to her kids for teaching them lies!

by Hortenzie in

she has been a witness most of her life.

her three kids were brought up as jw in a communist country and the whole family suffered reprisals from the regime for being in the org.

(father was well know elder).

Hortenzie

She has been a witness most of her life. Her three kids were brought up as JW in a communist country and the whole family suffered reprisals from the regime for being in the org. (Father was well know elder). She is a very intelligent person and always studied all the material. Over the last few years she realized that most of what she believed and taught her children has been been changed. She was devastated but courageously stood in front of her children and apologized for teaching them lies. They all, except the Father, stopped going to the meetings and are trying to figure out what's next.

They don't speak English and didn't know about the UN, pedophiles, CoC, and so on. It was just the doctrinal changes that woke them up.

I just wanted to share this story with all of you who are hoping that your loved ones will wake up. Anything is possible!

I'm so happy, they were my favourite family in my Mom's congr!

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Who is the faithful and discreet slave?

by wearewatchingyouman in

when i discuss things with my father regarding whether a governing body is needed for christians one theme that is constant with him is "if it's not the gb who is the faithful and discreet slave - who else is giving food in these days to god's people?".

i've been working on a response to this for the last couple of months and am just curious as to who christians who are ex-witnesses interpret the faithful and discreet slave to be, and the parable in general.. .

i guess i'm just looking to round out my argument and have a few different angles.

Hortenzie

It is a parable. How we know that? First of all, it is groupped with other parables (the burglar, ten virgins, talents). Second of all, there is a possibility that he turns bad. It is a story to teach certain lessons, not a prophecy about a group of guys in Brooklyn.

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Love is a stupid bunch of chemicals released to ensure that we have kids

by usualusername in

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love is a stupid bunch of chemicals released to ensure that we have kids so believe many an evolutionist (god delusion).

whilst i dont believe in a god i find that reasoning hard to believe.. .

what do you think love is?

Hortenzie

I think that everybody has their own idea about what love is. There are different kinds of love, and there are different words to describe them more accurately: warm affection, charity, sexual passion... I preffer to use the more accurate words. But when I use the word "love" I mean a strong liking for someone that moves me to do good to that person (usually it has nothing to do with sex).

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Goodbye and Thank You Jw Net (Last Post)

by Brother Mike in

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i would like to thank everyone for the discussions that we've all had.

after all of them i have realized, all of you have made me realized that after all of the stuff i have been through, i just need a good friend.

and regardless of how hostile our discussion could get i have felt that you have all shared something with me that have helped me.

Hortenzie

Goodbye Former Friends, Love Brother Michael.

- Ha, ha. Are you already shunning us?

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Going Back for the Right Reasons

by startingover13 in

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i'm new to this site, but i have been following the topics for some time.

initially, it was during a deep search into the history of jehovah's witnesses, and yes, "apostate" sites.

i was born into the organization in 1989. my father was always more inclined to the organization than my mother, and soon after she was df'ed.

Hortenzie

JW is a new religion, not a new congregation. There is not even consensus that it is a Christian religion because they don't believe majority of what historical Christian religions (or denominations) do.

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Going Back for the Right Reasons

by startingover13 in

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i'm new to this site, but i have been following the topics for some time.

initially, it was during a deep search into the history of jehovah's witnesses, and yes, "apostate" sites.

i was born into the organization in 1989. my father was always more inclined to the organization than my mother, and soon after she was df'ed.

Hortenzie

Pelican, this is not the right thread. But I think the answer is obvious. Religion is the fruit of a place and a time. Christ-ianity began with Christ almost 2000 years ago in Middle East...

And one more thought for Startingover13 - I am truly happy that your Dad doesn't shun you and helped you to put some order in your life. That's great! But a messy life or somebody's kindness (That's what Dads should do anyway) are not the right reasons to go back to a cult. It will not work out in long run.

I would like to hear from you, Startingover13. It's your conversation.