Hortenzie

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  I want my donations back!

  by Hortenzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to ask wt for my donations back.

  i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?

  what approach should i take?.

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  Hortenzie

  Aunt Fancy - I feel for you...

  I just found out that the donations I can prove add up to $4 080. That's for the last 4 years. I didn't claim it on the Income tax before that...
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  I want my donations back!

  by Hortenzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to ask wt for my donations back.

  i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?

  what approach should i take?.

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  Yeah, I wan't 15 years of my life back or equivalent in money, but that's not gonna happen. The income tax receipts are the only tangible evidence. And the fact that they took my money and then DFed me. I was wondering what would happen if I called them and just asked for it.

  NathanN - Why are you so negative? Did you tried to get your money back or you're jumping to conclusion?

  Blondie thanks, I'll check the links. I might also try to contact a lawyer, sometime they give you 1/2 hour consultation for free...
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  If you wrote book about JW's what title would you give it?

  by LogCon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many, after leaving or being cast out of 'the society,' have felt so strongly so as to write a book.

  some well thought out and good reading.. my questions are the following:.

  if you were to write such a book what title would you give it ?.

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  I like your question. I spent a few minutes thinking about it. I think I would like to write about the struggle of deprogramming myself from JW mindset to an ordinary mortal human being mindset and about the hurdles (in my mind) I had to overcome on the way. The title: 'Becoming human', 'Human again' or something like that.
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  I want my donations back!

  by Hortenzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to ask wt for my donations back.

  i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?

  what approach should i take?.

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  Hortenzie

  Hi. I want to ask WT for my donations back. I live in Canada and I have Income tax receipts from them so I can prove how much I gave them...

  Anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it? What approach should i take?
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  This JW video tour is disturbing......

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i found this video on youtube.

  apparently a loyal jw put it together as a kind of "video tour" to show their friends, etc.

  i don't know what's worse, the creepy music (is this what we've been hearing about?

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  I lasted 37 seconds. I'm scared to fall asleep now...
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Which TRUTH do you have in mind? There had been so many changes over the short history of JWs that you need to specify your question!
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  "Holy cult hypocrisy, Batman!": Wow! I just have to share TheUnwitness' call to WT HQ!

  by Island Man in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iykyoyygu4s.

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  Desiriousofchange - I called Canadian HQ 2-3 weeks ago. They accepted my call, the man (no more brother) wanted me to go to the local elders, I said I haven't been at the meetings for a while, I just needed a simple yes or no to the question if JWs use the baptismal formula (I thought they do because I remember studying WT about what it means to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and HS). He tried to avoid to answer but finally said a "no" and abruptly ended the call...

  JW are very inconsistent in following their own rules. I remember when they were talking so much against the Internet (mid. 1990s) that we all were under the impression that they will never use it and look now, how everything changed...
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  3 years of study, Just found out!

  by impala63rag in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends, .

  i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

  i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

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  Impala, JWs are very good at twisting everything so they always look good and the other people look bad. I had a very good friend at work. After I was DFed she stopped talking to me. We used to be very close so it was really obvious to others. When they asked me what happened I always said ask R. it was her decision. After a long time I found out that she actually always said that I don't talk to her either. I was really upset and did confront her about it. I told her that she well knows that it was fully her decision and the only reason is that some organization told her to do so. I also told her that the only reason why she blames me is that if she tried to explain the truth most people would think that JWs are a crazy controling cult... She is a very nice person, but the stupid WT policies made her into a lier...

  I wonder if the couple is really thinking about moving away or if it is preparing to drop you 'gently'.
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  A Purpose

  by DeWandelaar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "everything in life has a purpose" is something a lot of (religious) people tend to say.

  i used to believe that too... but i have always been wandering about animals, bacteria and everthing around us.

  what purpose is there?

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  Animals, including flies, have purpose. They are food for others.

  On the other hand, purpose of human existence... I'm not too sure.
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  Free Will - What a Joke !

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  everytime i hear jw's talking about free will, i either feel the urge to burst in laughter or feel sick.

  each publication keeps talking about how wonderful jokehova is for giving us free will.

  the only small thing is that he'll kill you if you don't do exactly what he says.

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  Free will is a myth. There are consequences for every choice we make.