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TardNFeatheredJW
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now wat??
by xtreemlyconfused17 inaloha everyone...................please do help if u can.
hope u dont get bored reading this quite long text
i'l soon be 17, i'm an unbaptized publisher, but innactive (havent gone door to door)for more than a year, but still very strict with our organisation's standards (lyk no teenage dating).
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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TardNFeatheredJW
Yeah, FB. I toss it out there if someone wants to 'friend up'. I'm not asking anyone to reveal their identity. I have many many many xjw on my (hidden) friends list. I suggest a fake profile be made if you wish to get to know xjws on FB. There's many groups on FB, some are quite supportive.
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Was Your Experience As A Jehovah's Witness Good In Any Way?
by minimus ini was raised as a witness.
i could've been raised as a catholic but my mother's side of the family came into "the truth" when i was an infant.
i do believe that because of my upbringing, i was a more honest person.
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There is only 2 good things that came from being raised jw for me:
1) Excellent public speaker.
2) I can help those who wish to become xjw.
The bad far outweighs the good.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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TardNFeatheredJW
One more thing- Unlike being baptised, increasing your hours in field service, attending meetings, and increasing your personal study, there is no urgency in your endeavors to find the truth on the 'truth'. No one is timing you, expecting you to 'mature', no one is going to demand you take a stand one way or another (no one in xjw land, anyway).
You set your schedule. Be ready to change it constantly. Set your limits, treat yourself and others right.
I remember giving a closing prayer at a meeting right before I quit... Your earlier comment on having to do a demonstration brought that memory back. It also reminded me of the 'shepherding' call I had a couple weeks after quitting. "We don't understand. You are doing so well, we were grooming you to become an MS." Yeah... no thanks.If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'll do my best to answer. If you are on facebook, I'm
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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TardNFeatheredJW
Hi. Welcome to the board, I don't post much. About me: In as a child around 1972 or so, 4 or 5 years old. My mother is devout and quit her position as a registered nurse so she could regular pioneer. She is now in her late 70s, still pioneering. My father is non-jw. I have 2 sisters in, who were both pioneers on and off, and their husbands are elders. They have chosen to wait until the new system for children. One is 50, one is 45. I am 43. I never could grasp the concept of god, and although I tried very hard to be a good jw, including being baptised at 14, pioneering, etc, I was considered weak in the faith, especially when I went to college to pursue a worldly education. I spent most of my free time in field service, studying, preparing talks (I liked doing the talks), or preparing for meetings. I was married as a jw, working towards becoming an MS, when suddenly I realized this just didn't feel right. I was having a tough time in service trying to sell something that wasn't real enough to me. I was unhappy with the constant rush-rush-rush. I couldn't see why my study had to cut his long hair or shave. I couldn't explain to him why his hair mattered. I was very involved with many senior brothers and exposed to some behind the scenes politics, and other brothers would confide in me that they are having this problem or that problem, doubts, etc. I saw some very righteous brothers take advantage of others in business.
One morning I gave it up. That's it about me... Just a little general background that I've never shared on here, but might be necessary knowledge in order to understand my answers below.i've noticed that alot of the comments have nothing to do with God.....
True.
Have u became bitter?
I've been told I'm bitter, I consider myself skeptical of religion. I was already skeptical before leaving the JWs, so CoC and the other xJW information has nothing to do with that. I didn't get much xJW info at the time I faded, as the internet was a gleem in the eye of congress at the time.
do u all still believe in God? How do u worship Him if at all?
I do not. That is my own personal decision and holds no bearing on how I view others. My wife is a christian, good for her. If god exists, I worship him by following the golden rule and showing kindness towards others, regardless of faith.
Have u found Jehovah's true followers if not witnesses?
This calls the assumption that Jehovah does indeed have a select, elite class. If god exists, I fail to believe he has so much hatred for man that he supposedly created, that he would make it difficult enough to worship him that it would exclude the majority of humans. The whole theme seems preposterous to me.
Do u feel at peace with God?
Yes. I immediately took on a new personality upon stopping attending the meetings. I awoke one day, realized "I don't have to do this anymore" and I completely stopped attending. I suffered from anxiety and depression and was extremely hot-headed. Once I stopped subjecting myself to the unbelievable workload of being a 'model' witness, I quickly found myself enjoying life and became much happier, in general. So, if god exists, then, yes, I am at peace with him. Most importantly, if god exists or not, I am at peace with myself. It is good.
Are u happy?
Much happier than I ever was as an active JW. I do miss my jw-family at times.
Do u have any doubt that u made the right decision?
No doubts at all. I know my decision was absolutely the right one- for me. Your decision depends on you.
If this is not the truth then why are some of u still 'fading'?
I faded because I didn't want to lose contact with my siblings and mother. I figured if I simply stopped going quietly and never spoke against the WTS I would avoid being shunned. Also, my wife(at the time) had younger siblings with whom we wished to maintain contact. The younger siblings are now adults, and none are JW. I still have contact with them. My own siblings are still JW, and they cut off contact with me within weeks of me no longer attending meetings. I have seen them occasionally under important situations over the past 20 years, but they really have nothing to do with me. I had an excellent relationship with my mother until the 7/15/2011 WT study article made it clear that she should not speak to me anymore because she suspects I became 'apostate'. So, after 20 years of quietly fading, my JW family I wished to hold close have nothing to do with me. The only reason I don't DA myself at this point is because I don't care anymore. The WTS holds no authority over me. The only emotion I have for the organization is animosity due to their endorsement of shunning all ex-active-jw as mentally diseased. There is bitterness there, I must say.
why condone untruth?
Being passive does not equate 'condone'. This is not a moral issue to me. There is no black and white, I'm no longer a member as they haven't provided me a KM in 20 years, nor have I submitted a field service report in 20 years. There was an attempt to DF me about 11 years ago, but it was dropped.
Would God be happy if this isn't the truth and yet u still atempt to condone and fade?
If god exists and is anything like the new testament 'god', then he can read hearts. God never stipulated membership of an organization or shunning of a person. He stipulated behavior, and that came down to one thing: Loving your neighbor as yourself. Once you see the bible and the world without the filter of the Watchtower Publications, you will understand that clearly.
I hope this helps.
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The Sickest JW Pedophile I've seen in a LONG time
by skeeter1 inbarbara anderson posted a thread a few days ago about a newspaper article that detailed a jw pedophile.
the man was sick.
in my book, he gets the sicko award.
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TardNFeatheredJW
he was beaten up while in jail.
The one bit of good news.
Ratushny gave him three years' credit for his time already spent in custody, leaving him two years of his sentence left to serve.
The bad outweighs the good. We can always hope it turns into a life sentence of beatings ending in death.
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Fading vs. D'F'd
by Band on the Run ini don't know the details.
is it true that if you slowly withdraw, you are free to go but if you are active and do an offense, you are shunned.
is their principle whether you are appropriating and blemishing the name vs. severity of the actual offense.
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TardNFeatheredJW
I left on my own about 20 years ago. Today a recently reinstated friend dropped in. He told me to keep his visit private because 'they' consider me df'd even though they are aware I am not.
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So I asked my female coworker what she was doing this weekend............
by miseryloveselders inbut her reply made me so very envious.
you know my mother always would tell me, "wordly people aren't really happy.
" as a kid that always bugged me because i figured if people are laughing, smiling, and generally having a good time, they must be happy.
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TardNFeatheredJW
Misery, if you live near me, blow off Saturday failed service, come on over and drink some beers.
I can tell from your post that you already know its BS. The disapproval and dread only lasts a little while. Knocking on doors to avoid it lasts forever.
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Who Moved My Cheese?
by mrsjones5 ini'm reading this book 'who moved my cheese?
' and i like it.
i have friends who are the mice (which i think if funny) and i think i've been hem for too long and now want to be haw.. has anyone read this book and what did you think of it?.
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TardNFeatheredJW
The corporation for which I work cares as much about me as the GB cares about the rank and file JW. They share similar traits- utter disdain for anyone with independent thought, an aire of prominence and importance, a certain superiority displayed, and a complete detachment from reality.
Oh, and the largest growth is in 3rd world nations where the 'little man' doesn't know enough to realize he's being poisoned.
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Who Moved My Cheese?
by mrsjones5 ini'm reading this book 'who moved my cheese?
' and i like it.
i have friends who are the mice (which i think if funny) and i think i've been hem for too long and now want to be haw.. has anyone read this book and what did you think of it?.
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TardNFeatheredJW
Holy crap. He (ratboss) refers to the book "The One-minute Manager" which was given to me when I took a class in management. I wonder if we worked in the same company?