No birthdays.
No celebrating Christmas - or any other holidays.
if someone mentioned to you that they accepted a brochure or magazine from a witness, what would you say to them, to help them see that the witnesses do not have "the truth"??
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No birthdays.
No celebrating Christmas - or any other holidays.
almost a year ago i made a few posts here about how much effort i ought to put into getting a man i loved considerably out of the wt.
by that point i had already put in a lot of effort and accumulated a nice collection of books on the wt, on cults, on bible chronology.
then i finally gave up and decided to leave.. we kept in pretty regular touch until last fall, when i moved a neat twelve time zones away.
Ummm... why not just turn the tables on him. Tell him that you've just recently met someone, and are engaged to be married.
Or better, tell him that you are already married.
A lie? Yes. But if he's lying to you... can it hurt? It may get rid of him.
if someone mentioned to you that they accepted a brochure or magazine from a witness, what would you say to them, to help them see that the witnesses do not have "the truth"??
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I think that I would say that they should treat the literature that they accepted as literature from a religious order like the Mooneys, or perhaps Jim Jones and the 'Peoples Temple'.
If they inquire why I feel that way... then I would go into details.
Regards,
Jim TX
gosh i wish i was better at having religious discussions with jws.
this evening, as i am at home trying to relax, i get a phone call from the local jws who are evidently sitting in their kh dialing out.. i got this man who starts off by asking me if he can ask me a question.
"okaaaaay..." i say slowly.... "do you think..." he starts... and then stops... obviously losing his place in his pre-prepared sermon....
"...I would like you to work on point 32b using emphatic gestures."
Crap! Getting a 'W' on my presentation. I guess that means that I have to do another presentation until I get a 'G'. (Okay... now that probably dates me a bit... I doubt that they use those kinds of 'gradings' anymore.)
"ask if you can call them back then give the number to someone on JWD to return the call next time."
Now there's a great idea! I like that! I'll keep that in mind for next time - if there is a next time. (I have a feeling that they placed a 'do not call - deemunz' next to my phone number.)
Thanks guys,
Jim TX
i have been reading things for a while.
in approximately 20 months it will be the year 2014. that year will be 1914+100 years.
i don't know how the wts is going to get around that if the "present system" is still in existence.
I've read through most of this thread, skimming, for the most part, but I still get the gist of the topic.
After having a phone call from a JW recently, it has become apparent to me that many (I won't say 'most', but tend to think that it is most) current JWs don't really know the history of the JW organization, and their 'roots'. Many don't care.
I remember back in the late 60's when we had that thick red 'revelation' book that we used at the Tuesday night meetings. Many folks back then dreaded going through it. Too much doctrine - not enough 'fluff'. I tend to think that nowadays, their literature is mostly fluff - with very little emphasis on doctrine and 1914.
Add to that the fact that they keep changing things around, which will tend to add confusion to the mix. Plus, you get those that are afraid that if they speak, they will be espousing the 'old light', instead of the 'new light'.
The bottom line is that you wind up with a lot of people who are content with attending their 'the future is going to be brighter' and 'the new system is right around the corner' meetings.
Many don't even know how to try to explain 1914 - IF - they even know about it.
My .02 worth.
Regards,
Jim TX
this headline reminds me of what ian malcolm said in the film, jurassic park.
"your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.".
the south korean foundation said it would transfer technology to the russian university, which has already been involved in joint research with japanese scientists to bring a mammoth back to life.. "the first and hardest mission is to restore mammoth cells," another sooam researcher, hwang in-sung, told afp.
...maybe the neanderthal man (men?) can work in GEICO commercials... just sayin...
apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
Don't walk. Run!! Away from this fella.
I speak from experience, as I was once that young fella, and you were the young lady whose life I screwed up. I regret that to this day.
There are many people in life that you will find that you are compatible with. You just need to find someone who is willing to not put 'conditions' on your relationship. Perhaps you need to look outside your small town.
Good Luck.
Regards,
Jim TX
and it wasnt even on the platform!.
i got a knock on the door this morning from a jw in another local congregation.
it's the first time this has happened since i left in october.
You did great!
What they practice at their meetings - you did not fall into that category. As a householder, you were not supposed to disagree with them. Since you _did_ disagree with the woman, she didn't know what else to do, but repeat her pre-programmed speech.
Regards,
Jim TX
i am dating a gal that i met on match.com - we saw each other first last summer, but she didn't think we were a 'match'.
after the "pressure" was off we started hanging out quite a bit with all the benefits that go along with it.
this went on for months.. i became smitten with her, but we weren't a couple, which she pointed out a couple of times.
When I was on Match - where I met my wife, I had left my profile 'online' for a bit after we had started going together.
When we decided that we were going to stop looking we both decided to take our profiles 'offline'.
Perhaps you could gently - in a casual discussion - let her know that you've removed your profile on Match, as you've found what you're looking for. See if she also admits that she's found what she is looking for. If she does, then maybe you could point out that if she should take her profile down.
Just a thought. No need to go in 'guns blazin' - or you may look like a domineering fool. She may not even realize that her profile is still active.
Good Luck! I'm glad that you found someone.
Regards,
Jim TX
i honestly cant remember the exact date when i was baptized.
it does not bother me one bit.
i didnt have it stamped in that shitty reasoning book/babel that i got at the time, so i guess the only place i could find it would be my cards, which are far away..
"It was a warm summer day around 30CE. My cousin and I were hangin' out, skippin rocks by the river...."
...and one of them hit this dude as his head came up out of the water. It hurt him so bad that he saw birdies... or so he said.
Oh. Sorry. I thought that this was the 'make up a story' post...
No, I don't remember when I got dunked. I think it was back last century sometime... maybe around '76 or so.
Regards,
Jim TX