Posts by breathing

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Witness Funeral--to go ot not to go?

by ValiantBoy in

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my 78 year old great-uncle is very ill and is expected to pass away within the next couple of days.

he has been being receiving chemo for a few weeks (which he appeared to be responding to), but then he developed severe pneumonia and then had a massive heart attack a few days ago.

he now has a blood infection, and his liver and kidneys have quit functioning.

breathing

will the frustration be worth it? or will not going be worth the regret? only you will no which would be harder to live with?

have had to make some decisions about jw stuff and its hard, but ive gone with what i will feel better about afterwards, never mind what any of those think of me, and ive zoned out in funeral talks where they just preach, and just said my only little giving of thanks for a person in my life and just thought of them and my personal relationship with them and honoured that,

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The old big orange "Paradise" book

by aquagirl in

anyone remember that?

i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.

breathing

i believe you, good luck!

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The old big orange "Paradise" book

by aquagirl in

anyone remember that?

i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.

breathing

wow, blast from the past, just caught up on this thread, just reminds me of why that religion had such a frightening effect on me about living a life outside the jws as an adult, that fear that was instilled in us as "babes"

god, they would shout child abuse if kids were allowed to watch scary movies, but what fxxxin hypocrites, feeding us all them knives and torture and destruction and fear fear fear, unless we were "obedient"

seeing those pictures again has been a good reminder, that it was real, and scary being a jw child in the 60's and 70's

they used to pride themselves on the fact that there were no separate sunday schools for children, but they should have been ashamed at letting little kids be frightened like that.

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a reasonable question to any elder/members

by bigmac in

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the question is this;.

because you are members of this apostate site, yet are still willing to serve the wt soc as elders,.

do you still hope to .

breathing

I agree with those that are basically saying - we have had enough judgment in our lives, lets leave people (whether elders or regular rank and file, women or men) leave the cong or not leave, in the way that they find able,

none of us has to live another persons life, and i have known people pushed to suicide by pressure in the jws, lets not carry on that pressure on sites like this

i have a family still active in the jws, and im a fader, so i know how difficult it is, and what a fake i have to be sometimes, to keep my family together, i choose to do that rather than get myself dissed and lose them all, but at least i have freedom in my life away from the jws and in my own head,

if a man decides to remain an elder whilst not believe, and participate in this site, then i say its none of my business,

its been said on an earlier post that we are all complicit in this society to things that arent necessarily very nice, and do we take a stand against everything? probably not, its not that simple,

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What advice would you give to your 20 year old self?

by paul from cleveland in

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breathing

i dont think i would have listened to very strong anti jw stuff at that age, i was soooooo indoctrinated,

i think that the main thing i could have said to myself would be:

love those that are very close to you as if you could lose them tomorrow, cos you will be losing them within the next 2 years, so make every second count and have fun and laugh with them and hug them and cherish them and smell them and look at them and hear them, because you cant get those moments back, and they will go and you will lose them and there will be nothing you can do about it,

make some memories with them that will etch upon your heart,

ask them important questions and try to find out their opinions on what really matters,

so in the years to come you can remember their answers, and although they will be gone you will have those words to remember

also, to the 20 year oldme, OBSERVE, look around you and REALLY notice what is going on, dont take anything as it appears, think deeper and out side the box you dont realise you are in,

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Which book ,studied at the Book Study, you Hated or loved more????

by deep-blue-sea in

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during my life as jw i have studied many, many books of the wt at the weekly book study.. here you will find some of the books considered during the years with their publishing date:.

1955 new heavens, new hearth.

1961 from lost paradise to..... 1962 let your will be done on earth.

breathing

the youth book and the "making you feel guilty for every thought" genre of jw books,

god they made me just feel so, guilty and ashamed if i even breathed the wrong way

my spirit was just being suffocated to death with all those books and they used to really labour the points on how one must feel/think/do this that or the other,

Glad glad Glad to be out!!

B

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The appropriateness of "Namaste" to me

by AK - Jeff in

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http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/namaste.

this wonderful article explores the greeting from many angles.. a quote i enjoyed:.

"at its most general namaste is a social transaction.

breathing

i was told that namaste meant "the god in me honors the god in you" and i really like it, - looking at the positive in all of us, thats how i take it Namaste! x

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WTS was the first on the scene after the Haiti earthquake

by bohm in

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hey!.

the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.

this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..

breathing

since when is the mass killing by an earthquake a time for boasting and competition,

just get on with it, and get the doctors on the ground, like everyone else is trying to do,

who cares whos first or second,

surely thats not really the point, stupid religious self righteious jwfools,

B

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Giving to Charities

by Kristina1972 in

i notice the jw's don't really donate to charities.

when i donated to the earthquake in haiti, my husband didn't really say anything about it.

silence usually means he doesn't agree with something because of his religious beliefs.

breathing

look i dont agree with the jws im deffo a very ex jw, but my mother who was brought up a very strong jw does give regularly to the red cross and animal charities, she gives to the red cross cos she believes" they seem to get to on the scene first and can get into most places and help everyone" BUT if theres a separate box at the khall, like there has been for haiti then they would give to that rather than the worldly charities, but the rank and file (well the ones in my family( do believe that that does go to helping all haitians and not jsut the jws ones) the trust is unbelieveabley strong, i do believe they do give practical aid to places but whether they give to those other than themselves isanother question??? B

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Your worst field service experience.

by littlebird in

my worst field service experience was this.. i didn't have a car at the time and so a pioneer sister was picking me up of service every couple of days.

she was my partner and i got a door where the woman was clearly not interested.

as i am stepping away the pioneer sister starts in with all the objection stoppers.

breathing

not one bad or worst experience, but just a slow eroding of my soul and a a slow death of the mind, trudging round streets and knocking on doors where noone was home and the mindwas just being pickled in apathy and rote and maps and magazines and counting hours and pleasing elders and ....................

just one massive blot on my life that i cant believe i endured

B