Posts by FadeToGrey

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If Jehovah God Chose Russell & The Bible Students Why Did He Give Them So Much Inaccurate Information?

by minimus in

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friends

hmmm.

either jehovah god (the perfect god) didn't give that information.

it never was the "truth" in the first place..

FadeToGrey

Oh Soz.. My spellings a bit crappy..

You get that when your desendants came over in leg irons to Aust 200 years ago. hehe..

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If Jehovah God Chose Russell & The Bible Students Why Did He Give Them So Much Inaccurate Information?

by minimus in

jw
friends

hmmm.

either jehovah god (the perfect god) didn't give that information.

it never was the "truth" in the first place..

FadeToGrey

Yes Dan u are correct.

I do have some bitterness. Have just come out of this cult and 20 years of all the rubbish, does get to you!

My thinking is, if there was-is a god he should be or could be doing a better job of letting us humans know of his plans..

Considering he is going to bring earth wide clamity one would think he could have chosen a better way to comunicate his plans to us poor souls.

Like how bout some sort of supernateral proof that is unmistakable to all mankind. Nope we are led to believe he is using a crazy American cult/sect to tell us of our doom/sins.

It just does not Gell.. And to me not good enough. its just to cloak and dagger. well for me anyway. If I was in charge I would explain all this to my human children in a much better loving caring way. than a book writtin thousands of years ago by uneducated desert dwellers, full of wars and killings and wild beasts with ten horns and such.

As the bible says we are made in his image. So supposedly have the same sort of thinking abilty. And there is now way if i was incharge of this universe I tell my children i was going to kill most of them, because of something one of my other sons did before they were born..

and then give them an old vage book from years past to try and work out there salvation, from my warth.

Yeah Right..

Yep I am a tab Jaded. Brother Dan.

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Further Education and the Special Assembly Day

by eyesthatsee in

i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.

what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.

better late then never though.

FadeToGrey

Well Bro_Dan.

I Feel like the way eyesthatsee just said.. this cult is evil, and they know exactly what they are doing. the high ups cant be that stupid to not know thay are all a sham.

And yeah I hav lost all faith in a God or his Son. All the shit I hav seen in this god damn cult over the last 20 years makes me just mad and bitter too!

The last C-Assm I went to early 2009 was a joke.. All these stupid demo's on doing more for the org. leaving school early, pioneering, reaching out for bethel, not going to university.

Not going on Vacation was another one too.. better to spend that tim aux pioneering...Please...FFS. Idiots..

Who is going to pay these poor saps bills in the coming years, not the WT I suspect!

It's bullshit. people falling for this crap.

At least my wife and I have got out of this bullshit.

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If Jehovah God Chose Russell & The Bible Students Why Did He Give Them So Much Inaccurate Information?

by minimus in

jw
friends

hmmm.

either jehovah god (the perfect god) didn't give that information.

it never was the "truth" in the first place..

FadeToGrey

Yeah I am new here..

Anyway I've had this same question going over in my head for a while now. and have had conversations about this very subject with borothers..

Its interesting to say the least.

My conclusion is that God has not told or comunicated to the FDS any information. and thay have just been spinning crap for the last 100 or so years.

Logic to me says if a perfect god was telling humans his will, so save all mankind form death and destruction he would not be spinning the crap the WT seem to come out with.

Then change it a few decades later. Because God cant lie apparently. so why feed his peolpe false infomation. It does not make sence to me.

Oh and dont try the he is sifting his peolpe and weeding out the slackers and the like..

In my book he will do that at the so called armageddon when he kills all the bad people. so why sift and clean out his people during these last days.

It's all crap. the whole JW thing is just another American chirstian adventest type modern religion.

I for one am over it.

Still fading though..hahahahah

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My JW mothers opinion of disfellowshiped people!

by LucyA in

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so a little background i am not dissfellowshiped and my sister stayed in for awhile though so she's treated like she is!.

this is the most disturbing conversation i have ever had with my mother and for the first time i see clearly how deep the control on my mothers mind is!.

FadeToGrey

As my dad used to say.

I hate these holier than thou Witnesses. Ive seen enough of them in my time in this cult.

As we aussies say she's a dickhead.

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LETS GET SMART: "What parts of science that go against your religious beliefs you DONT AGREE WITH"

by cyberjesus in

so, many in here disagree with many aspects of science because they go against their own personal beliefs.

so lets all get smarter here and do some research.

if you have something that you dont agree with science because it goes against what your religion tell us and lets all do some research about it.. if we cant find any evidence of it we will switch to disagree with science.

FadeToGrey

The Guy doing these Vid's is a freaking genius. No question.

Why cant we have people like this in Govenment, in charge.

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Another Bro Fading

by FadeToGrey in

hi all.. my story.

it's been a while coming.. i have been lurking around here for 10 months or so.. reading just about everyday.

thank steve jobs for the iphone.. i haven't worked out how to post from the iphone.

FadeToGrey

Hey everyone thank you for your love and kindness.

Its strange seeing it directed at me. I normally read all the other post's of new ones coming out and telling there storys.

I guess it was my turn.

lots of stuff to tell. but you know its so similar what we go through in this Org is the same all over the world.

For the Aussies i am in Melbourne, we probably know the same people ha..

Ha the days spent at the tennis centre & melb Glass house. Man some of them times were even fun..

like when we were Attendents slacking off walking around like cops... hehe

I should say i am not one for many words but will try and post.

I wish i could post from my Apple device.. Iphone 4 & Ipad.. I cant figure that one out as yet.

Can read fine but she wont post a damn thing hmmmm...

Oh i should say there is one Bro on here that probably saved my life.

He know's who he is..thanks Bro..

but ive told him that hehe.

time for bed now

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Another Bro Fading

by FadeToGrey in

hi all.. my story.

it's been a while coming.. i have been lurking around here for 10 months or so.. reading just about everyday.

thank steve jobs for the iphone.. i haven't worked out how to post from the iphone.

FadeToGrey

Hi all.
My story. It's been a while coming.
I have been lurking around here for 10 months or so.
Reading just about everyday. Thank Steve Jobs for the IPhone.
I haven't worked out how to post from the Iphone. If that's even possible. I guess I would have posted a fair amount by now.
I live in Aust. Yeah the big flat place down south.
I am married to the best girl one could want or have. She was raised in the truth. haha. Yeah right.
I started studying in when I was 19 think.
Baptized a year or 2 later. So spent my 20's in the Borg.
I have always been the quite type so never reached out for anything. Had a few good friends in the Cong back then. We were a bunch of boys with cars. Caused all sorts of trouble for the elders. Looking back we were a good bunch trying to make something of our selves within the laws of the org.
The elders. Man the arse holes I saw come en go And deal with. Holy spirit my arse. These guys tried to railroad so many people it made me sick. But kept it all in. As u know I thought it was gods org.
If I saw these people now I would let them have it as in tell them to there face they were are evil SOB'S. Not very likely now as I have faded from the org. And no chance of going to any assemblies in the future.
So much to tell. To many stories.
I recently went though a bout of depression which was driving me to suicide. To much pain and guilt over never being good enough or doing enough.
My wife has had medical conditions which she has battled with since her teens so we could never do as much as others. We jus done what we could.
But me supposedly being head of the house had to do more.
As we Aussies say. Pigs arse.
My job is to look after my wife 1st and any thing else comes next. Anyway this had lead to many elders and friends. ( yeah that word they use for bros& sisters)
Judging me as unworthy of any privileges or such cos I put her 1st before the Cong or service or what ever.
There is more, god I could write a book.
All this crap over the year took it's toll.
So going to meetings got harder. The dirty looks when missing meetings en such.
Well it gets one down. Well it did me.
Wanted out. Wanted it to stop was sick of all the bullshit from everyone.
Watching arse wipes suck up the the elders all the time. I guess u guys have seen it all before.
Well I have watched all this for 20 odd years. It's makes one hard. Jaded.
Anyway the wife and I faded this year. And we both have been so lucky we are together in this endeavor of fading from this bloody cult.
Most I have read are not so lucky.
She read COC. After a fellow fader lent it to her early this year. I still haven't read it. But then reading these forums kinda does the trick anyway. So much information on here.
I have come good after leaving all the guilt behind. Not any where near as sad and depressed as before. Even happy now. And for some taking note. I am on anti depressants still.
Hope to be off them soon.
Been on them since late last year.
I do have heaps more to tell but. Yeah trying to put if down in a post is probably to long and boring.

Thanks for reading & hope it made sense.
I don't know how many of us Aussies are on here but it would be good to know some.
Hmmm that's it for now.

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Anyone from downunder remember CO/DO Hans hubler or Joe Sleighman????

by karter in

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friends

i heard joe and wife are out and rumors about hubler.. joe was the nices't guy around but hubler was the biggest a***h**l the god chucked guts into..

FadeToGrey

I remember Joe..

He was CO when I was a in my earlt twenties.

He was one of the nicest Co's ive ever met..

All the last ones we had were real tools..

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Wine and Crackers Tonight?

by sweet pea in

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friends

anyone fancy joining us for some?.

the sun's on its way down and we are celebrating life, family, happiness and the fact that we are free!!!!!!!!!!.

sam, paul, archie & bertie (of the 'skipped the memorial for three years now' class).

FadeToGrey

I am a Newbie..On here..

Getting ready now for it... Ours it 8:15 pm Aus time...