Posts by chigaimasmaro

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Jehovah God - This is the last time we talk, because I don't believe in you anymore

by dissed in

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just finished watching a 'worlds apart' a danish movie portraying a young jw girl leaving the wt and dealing with the shunning of her family.

this was one of the last thoughts in the movie.

her final prayer to jehovah after being treated harshly by her family and elders.. "jehovah god, this is the last time we talk, because....i don't believe in you anymore".

chigaimasmaro

I watched the movie a couple of days ago. I enjoyed how simple the movie was, the actors didn't play up any parts. The part that really hit me was when the main character walked past her best friend and the best friend breezed past her like she wasn't even visible. It pained me a lot because thats how i used to treated my sister, even though she hadnt done anything wrong. It just minded me of why I wish June would get here faster so i can leave.

The line in the sand moment for me came when I fell sick, I didnt know i was going to be mentally and spiritually beat up so badly in those fall/winter months of last year. It was definitely true I was sick , missing days of work, but no one, not even my family cared about how I was doing. Only thing everyone who was a witness cared about was being AT the meetings and going out preaching. Every phone call or every conversation I had with someone, it felt like i was being cut to bits because I didnt physically appear at some building so I can listen to the same nonsense I've heard for the past 30 years.

I was glad the people who created that movie didn't stray far from real life. The atmosphere that was created and the cinematography was excellent. I like how they made so many scenes just feel dark, oppressive and moody when it came to the witnesses. Especially since thats how most of us felt before we had that defining moment of clarity. The scene where the younger sister confronted the mom and the main character.. that was the icing on the cake! Whew... there was NO getting through to the girl at all. Reminds me of my younger sister....

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Has Your Growth As A Person Been Stunted Because Of Being A Witness?

by minimus in

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i think that in many areas, that just might be the case.. what do you think?.

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Dandingus - I know for a fact that being raised a Witness stunted my social growth.

Dandingus - Balsam, fortunately for me I was always a curious person who wanted to know everything so mentally I'm actually ahead in many ways. It's the emotional component that in my case was affected.

This is what happened in my situation as well, the social and emotional growth were effected quite a bit. I noticed I missed out on a lot of transitional phases in my growth that other people experienced. Most of which has to do with things being decided for me and from my perspective, when you are a witness, you dont deal with emotions, you just go by the rule book, which unfortunately isnt the bible. Through grade, middle and high school, i noticed that the other kids seem to "change" or go through the normal stages of puberty, I wasn't able to enjoy that, because at a very young age, I not only had to act like an adult because of the witness rules, but also i had to grow up fast because of the situation that festered inside my house because of the witness rules (topic for another thread).

Its someting my counselor and I have talked about a great deal. But I'd have to definitely say it stunted my growth as a person.

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Ambushed!!!!! Fam'ly Intervention!

by sd-7 in

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last night, i went to my parents' house to wash clothes--or so i thought.

apparently, someone's been talking.

so...i get slammed for listening to people on the internet.

chigaimasmaro

Black Sheep - Remember, JWs are taught not to listen, so don't tell them anything. (Even when they ask a question, they do not listen to your answer with understanding.)
They are taught to teach, so ask questions.

This has to be the best advice I've seen that I'd like to second. Even though to JW's they feel they are being "helpful", all they are doing is looking for the next oppurtunity to prove themselves right and bury you with your own words.

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7.3 Million Regular Pioneers

by 5thGeneration in

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if all jws truly believed 100%, wouldn't every single one be pioneering?

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can you tell i'm bored today?.

chigaimasmaro

In my opinion if what the witnesses said were true, then catholicism would be much smaller than it is today and the witnesses would be larger than 7.3 million people.... all of whom were pioneering and conducting 4 or 5 studies each.... but unfortunately... its not true.

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Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT claim to be prophets!!! Stop saying that!!!

by sd-7 in

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from the prophetic shadows to the actual realities we observe that this god-provided channel for christians is the collective congregation of anointed ones who serve as a prophetlike organization under the leadership of its communicating head, christ jesus.. ...the word then became flesh to dwell among men as jehovahs greatest prophet or channel of communication to convey priceless words of wisdom directly to honest men.. .

...preparation of prophetical organization.

11 like the prophets noah, elijah, elisha and john the baptist, jesus, the prophet, gathered disciples around him and trained them to become preachers.

chigaimasmaro

SD-7 - just curious, were those articles from before or after russel died? It seems to me a lot of the doctrine changed after he passed away. Or was this kind of craziness around when he was alive? Its amazing how many old items i've come across on this site and other websites. My WT cd from 2008 stops at 1950...

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oh, hi... i only exist when you need something

by chickpea in

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i am not a real fan of becoming a fan on all the facebook groups that seem.

to come around, but this one, named in the subject line, caught my eye and.

made me laugh because it is verbatim the line my hub and i used to say when.

chigaimasmaro

unconfused - that's a great idea! I'll definitely use that on the next phone call.

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Want to read about those nasty disgruntled APOSTATES attacking Scientology and JWs. Priceless!

by AndersonsInfo in

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for people with lots of time on their hands, here's a priceless blog article written to defend scientology against apostates.

and guess what religion the author points to with the same problem?

jehovah's witnesses, of course.

chigaimasmaro

Its interesting this article mentions the Amish, i think the Amish are the only cult like religion that at least allows the younger people to choose what they want to do , whether to stay amish or not after seeing what the world is like. Even though the cost is them being disconnected from family, at least they are giving the oppurtunity to choose. Scientology, JWs and Mormons, you arent even given that.

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Has anyone else seen the movie Worlds Apart"? The Jehovahs witness flick?

by aquagirl in

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i just bought it.its amazingly accurate!

especially when the heroine tells her father that she has decided to quit school and become a full time pioneer.he was so pleased!!!

!that is exactly the way it is!the movie is very good,and isnt total jw bashing.a very interesting look at a sick cult.also,i had a lot of "thea" friends,girls that would get me to do something that they "said " they were doing,and when i didi it,they would have to confess for my own good.whew,i am soooo thankful to be out of that crap..

chigaimasmaro

I've watched this movie as well. I like the simplicity and the almost paper thin characters. Those two elements really made the primary message of the film stand out, It just makes you wonder how many people around the world has gone through similiar situations. The details were pretty spot on, I think the inaccuracies were due to either culture or just the script writers trying to avoid being sued. I tell, it had me tearing up , its a beautiful movie.

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The Back Room

by XPeterX in

i was told to have a "conversation" with the elders there and they asked me 35.000 questions about something i had done.anyone ever had similar experience or something funny/weird happened?.

chigaimasmaro

oddly enough, i had a backroom session, it was when me and one person from the hall were walking home together and got jumped and robbed. We were being counseled on the virtues of coming home before it gets late (the incident happened at 8:30pm, unless you eat the early bird special at diners , thats not late in my book)

the other time i was pulled into the backroom was when the they chased the girl i was interested in out of the congregation, and they wanted to make sure i wasn't going to leave cause they knew i was interested in the girl.

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oh, hi... i only exist when you need something

by chickpea in

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i am not a real fan of becoming a fan on all the facebook groups that seem.

to come around, but this one, named in the subject line, caught my eye and.

made me laugh because it is verbatim the line my hub and i used to say when.

chigaimasmaro

Sure, i get those calls all the time since I do networking as my job. Last december when i was terribly sick, i didnt get ONE phone call asking how i was doing. However, i got six calls , four text messages, and e-mail asking for computer help. Even though people outside of the organization will do this kind of stuff, its just amazing how FREELY people do it INSIDE the organization, and if you say no, you're not being "Christian".