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  Can Ministerial Servants Fade?

  by ihadnoidea in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you step down, they are going to want to know why?

  what do you say?.

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  ihadnoidea, if you follow WTWizard's advice it wouldn't matter if your family was the GB itself you'd be deleted so spectacularly they'd invest a new announcement just for you "You're fired"
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  Dating a JW for 3 yrs

  by justbreathe825 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  my bf and i are thinking on getting married.

  i posted a foum early this week on whether or not i should get baptized.

  i decided not to.. now even though he says he "doesn't care" he got upset last night when i mentioned the subject and how confused i was.

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  what he means when he says your kids should be allowed to decide means they must be brought up in the truth for their whole lives and then they can choose when they're in their teens. But they won't get a choice just like you're not really getting a choice either. I am so so sorry because this could have been a different situation (if your bf didn't believe it and soon after your wedding fade out of being a JW) but it isn't. Your bf is trying to pressure you, blackmail you into doing something that will commit your whole life to something that will please him and his parents but not you.

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  Need Your Opinion

  by bloominglotus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi u guys,.

  lately i've been doing a lot of reflection about my life.

  sometimes i would have overwhelming emotions come up ranging from anger, bitterness, sadness to relief.

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  bloominglotus, do what you think is best, stick with that decision and most importantly - don't worry about it. Have a great day on Saturday and enjoy yourself - you have earned it! This is a single ocassion and they are very young (I thought they might be older) - just plan what you'll do for the next time and the long term.

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  Spoke to my JW daughter !!!!!!PTL

  by funnyface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some one told me my jw grand daughter was on face book telling folks she was wondering .

  what name to call her expected..she was the one that wrote me after i was df saying she was hoping i would die before the big a. so that i may get a resurrection.never spoken to me in many,many years.. so i called my daughter ....she was quite pleasant ,i asked how she was?

  we talked about her work.

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  If it's a girl I hope she calls her Grace - that's a lovely name. or indeed Mouthy would be equally lovely in a self expressive sort of way.

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  Can Ministerial Servants Fade?

  by ihadnoidea in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you step down, they are going to want to know why?

  what do you say?.

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  last post by Inside Man is the fastest, easiest, way out of minihood & the truth. You'll even get a pat on the back and a nice announcement for all your hard work when you leave from your old KH as well

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  Can Ministerial Servants Fade?

  by ihadnoidea in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you step down, they are going to want to know why?

  what do you say?.

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  hey inside man - you're on the same radar. hadn't seen your post when I was writing mine - all about playing the game. I did a long planned fade and all went well.

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  Can Ministerial Servants Fade?

  by ihadnoidea in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you step down, they are going to want to know why?

  what do you say?.

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  The facts....

  25. The a pprov al of the branch office is requiredwhen de let1ons of m1nisterial ser vantsare recommended in the following circumstances :

  • A brother res1gns for personal reasons. Two e lders should first discuss the matte r with h1m.

  Why does he wish to resign? Is he Scripturally disqualified? If his personal c1rcumstances hinder him from doing what he would like, can theelders be of any assistance and encouragement? If his c1rcumstances change, perhaps they can lighten his load for a period of time whilehe continues to serve. If, after this d1scussion, he still feels he wants to resign, then the Congregation Committee should write the branch office and give sufficient 1nformation sothat the reasons for resignation are clear. Full detailsshould be provided as to why he chose to relinquish his pr1vilege of service

  This is the same for elders and mini's so they'll go a lot easier on a mini. They will ask about previous sins that may be the reason. Clearly do not confess to anything. They need to send a reason to Bethel so there has to be one.

  My advice: Be sick. Miss a number of talks you have. Apologise profusely but become very unreliable and drop your FS down very low. They'll want to help you. You need to always thank them and maybe even work with a few on FS. But continue on your irregular pattern. After maybe 6 months of this ask to step down due to ill health/stress. They won't want you to, they'll want to support you or lighten your responsibilities but keep you on as an MS. You need to persuade them that after a lot of prayer this is what your conscience has told you. What Jah has told you. As soon as you are well again and proven reliability for a certain time that you hope they will consider you for being an MS again.

  Once you're deleted then you can continue your fade. This may all take a year of hassle. It will be hassle although you'll have a lot more time on your hands along the way so you'll be able to taste freedom fairly quickly.

  Alternatively you could move to a new area and then be quite irregular when you at the new cong. so you don't get made up an MS - much easier and quicker but probably way more costly.

  PM me if you need any more info.

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  Need Your Opinion

  by bloominglotus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi u guys,.

  lately i've been doing a lot of reflection about my life.

  sometimes i would have overwhelming emotions come up ranging from anger, bitterness, sadness to relief.

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  Hi bloominglotus,

  She agreed to look after them and now wants to take them on FS. She has manipulated the situation here and however nice she is being, it isn't nice. She's trying to

  a) state her religion means a lot to her and that it's more important than a simple agreement she made to help you out

  b) use the fact she's doing a favour for you into getting something back that she wants - to help recruit your girls - that's manipulative

  What harm can it do? In reality probably very little if it is a one off. But next time she wants to see them it will involve another JW recruiting situation, a meeting or a JW social do.

  You are the parent, and get to decide what is appropriate for your girls. Say that you're happy for them to stay at the house but not FS or meetings. Ask your mum to skip FS this week. If she isn't happy with that then try to get a babysitter (as tricky or expensive as that may be). Be sure to allow your children to see their grandma - but under your supervision - make an arrangement soon to make up for it.

  This may sound like a strong line, but you are already not comfortable about this. Start how you mean to go on. If you let it happen once you won't be able to say no the next time. And there will be a next time.

  Glad to hear you're health is improving. Keep good people around you and remember - think self preservation - if you need to be a little impolite or rude to protect your wellbeing and your daughters - do it.

  mmxiv

  PS 3dogs1husband - Welcome - great name
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  My Story: Short Version

  by In in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i... well, i need to face this fear that someone will read my story and know who i am and harrass me.

  there are enough distinctive things about my story that who i am is pretty easy to identify, if you know me.. so, here goes.. i was raised as a witness.

  my dad was abusive.

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  Welcome IN,

  Your journey, while unique to you, is something that has similarities to many of us here. Distance has afforded you the time to do research and be away from the influence of people and the mind control at meetings.

  Ultimately you now want to leave and cause minimum pain to your parents. I was faced with this some years back and decided to tell my parents that I didn't want to go to any more meetings. That is all I said. I held back on what I truly believed. I do however have regular contact with them with no real issues. That is the result I wanted so I went about trying to get to that result (although it took a fair bit of planning and managing them).

  I found this site 5 years after I left and it would have me good advice in how to leave. More importantly it confirmed to me many of the suspicians I had which has helped me to understand why I led the life I did for 3 decades.

  I am going to send you a PM. If you haven't viewed one before - click on the envelope on the top right of the screen. That gets you to your inbox. Then click on the message title. You will first get an error message (quirk of the system). Click Back and then click on the message title for a second time and you should be able to read it fine.

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  Our Independence Day - Getting Disfellowshipped Tonight!

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, it's the big day.

  time to go over the checklist..... .

  shoes shined.

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  for a few weeks after your story was breaking I couldn't get the word SweetBabyCheezits out of my head. I was hoping to hear a song that would take it's place. Tim doesn't have the same ring to it thankfully.

  those wedding pics will be a great memory in years to come of your parting occassion. power to you.

  mmxiv