Posts by MMXIV

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Is The End of the "Preaching Work" Now In Sight?

by metatron in

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there may not be any specific plan to end the "preaching work" but that doesn't mean that things can't evolve into such an outcome.

indeed, i now wonder if such a thing is probable!.

first, if (and it's a very big if) various nations develop case law that includes liability for volunteers, this will put the watchtower in a bind.

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If they stopped preaching (and this would not affect their tax exempt status) it would be embraced with open arms by most JW's. It would lift a huge burden as I'm sure many of us felt when we stopping going door to door. Of course there would be some spin on it like we'd be reaching more people using the internet in areas currently unaccessible - masking the real reason that it was saving lots of money / reducing law suits.

Perhaps the dubs would be kept busy by doing more personal study and have to pass exams - more of a scientology education model. The weekly meetings might have an exam and then review format like the old rotten review, but using some software developed by the WBTS (congregations would contribute to this under licence). Thus weekly exams with published scores to show how spiritual people were or humiliate those less able. Of course it would also force regular attendence. Anyone falling below certain figures would require tuition by the better members on the other meeting nights - again all using the carefully controlled publications and source material from WBTS.

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super saturdays

by outsmartthesystem in

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are these things happening by where you live?

around here they are becoming popular.

basically it is a congregational effort to get as many people as possible to make a full day of "field service".

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We used to have something similar about 20 years ago with early morning street witnessing, back to the KH for the main group and another group in the early afternoon. There wasn't a sniff of tea or food though. I've never seen food distributed at our KH unless during the build. I suspect it would attract more than a few penny pinching JW's to do extra hours for the food alone.

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Matrix moment - what was it and when did you share it?

by MMXIV in

for those of you who had a moment like that from the matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?.

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all powerful stuff and again the realisation of flawed doctrines a big moment for people - especially when they were actually searching for the truth.

LongHairGal - on the topic of films I saw the Shawshank Redemption a few days back and that probably best describes my experience in the truth (as I'm sure many can relate) - many years of being trapped, controlled, my life being wasted away and it took a lot of years of planning but finally I broke free. Alas I didn't bring the institution down when I escaped but it does feel great to be free.

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Jw's forcing "niceness" on people

by highdose in

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i can't go into details but basically having been off the jw radar for years i'm now firmly back on it.

just recently it feels like i can't move without a jw being in the way!

they are trying a tactic with me which i've seen done many many times when i was a jw myself.

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highdose - you see it exactly as it is.

It would be nice if they actually did something nice - instead of (literally) "acting" nice.

So rather than coming round your house to pretend to be of some use to you, helping unburden your many problems that you'd no doubt have as a result of being a non active JW, they simply waste your time... so that they can count time.

Now I'm no longer a JW and not concerned with reporting time, if I'm round someone's house I'm helping them with something, even if it's while having a beer at the same time, there's one less job they have to do.

Nice is about actions not just a fake smile or a "I'll be your best friend only until I conscript you into my cult then I'll drop the act".

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Jehovahs Witnesses Plan on Looting the Dead

by God_Delusion in

hi guys and gals,.

i've written a new article on what some jehovah's witnesses plan on doing after armageddon strikes.

i am sure you've been around witnesses that have said something like "oh i'm moving into that house after armageddon.".

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I recall similar discussions too. Such an irony given how we were taught to be anti materialistic but it's ok to want to be rich beyond our imagination if Jah provides it? I found the idea of looting less offensive compare to the hardened vengeful comments from JW's about how the worldly people would beg to be saved but suffer a terrible painful death at Armageddon. "Oh they'll be sorry all right and we won't be able to save them".

I honestly believe there are plenty of JW's that would have picked up a gun and shot innocent people had they been told to do so from the platform - that kind of control has been exercised before by cults.

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In love with a JW...

by CuriousUK in

apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.

two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.

he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.

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Hi CuriousUK,

Hope all is well!

If you want to ask any questions more privately you can always send a note using the envelope in the top right corner - it's does come up with error messages at time so if this happens then hit the back button a few times and it should be fine.

Good luck :-)

mmxiv

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Thought on the new 16 page Watchtower

by Paralipomenon in

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dear brothers,.

wecome to the first issue of the smaller version of the watchtower.

in this current digital age, more people are turning less to the printed page and more to online sources for their reading material.

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approved use of iPads? WTF - what have I missed? Sitting at the back with a privacy screen could allow for JWN access without anyone noticing - ahhhh how times have changed!!!!

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Matrix moment - what was it and when did you share it?

by MMXIV in

for those of you who had a moment like that from the matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?.

mmxiv.

MMXIV

It takes a long time to get out of the system because it's all become so familiar. I took a decade to fade, but by the time I did, I'd got qualifications, built up a career, had a surrogate social network at my work and was confident. For years I spent no time with JW's aside from at meetings, and even then I arrived just before the song and left after the prayer.

This is meant to be something refreshing and positive in your life - not a burden or depression inducing. I didn't realise how easy it was to leave in the end - it was my fear that was stopping me.

Good luck :-)

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Matrix moment - what was it and when did you share it?

by MMXIV in

for those of you who had a moment like that from the matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?.

mmxiv.

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lostinthought,

If it was the truth then you could part from it for many years, subject it to many tests and still be sure it was the truth. Sorry you learned the truth was a lie. Hope it's getting better. This is the first kingdom melody I've heard in 6 years and it doesn't affect me any more.

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How many JWs does it take to ....

by 00DAD in

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q: how many jws does it take to .... figure out the meaning of the word "generation"?

they've had millions of people working on it for about a century and they still haven't figured it out yet!!!!

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Q. How many witnesses does it take for there to be a crime?

A. 3 witnesses - 1 to commit the crime and 2 to witness it* **

*unless it's the governing body in which case they are innocent of any crime - please speak to the legal department for clarification

**any crime committed by a witness would be on an entirely voluntary basis and would not be acting on behalf of the WBTS in any way - even if following our strict instrustions using our procedures in a manor we had taught them from infancy while they were reporting regularly to us