That article in the link is over 5 years old. If anything big came out of the tests, I assume we would have heard about sometime since then. I don't doubt that something like this might be possible some day, but I think it's a long way off. The problem is that almost all funding for R&D, both government and private, is earmarked toward research on specific diseases and not old age in general.
Chaserious
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AntiAging Breakthrough: 10Fold LifeExtension
by metatron inhttp://io9.com/345728/geneticists-discover-a-way-to-extend-lifespans-to-800-years.
just yeast so far.
i don't quite get why they want to test it on ecuadorians but maybe they sub for lab rats these days.. in addition, if you're interested in not dying, there's c60 in olive oil.
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Confidential File-1980 Watchtower Insurance Manual!
by Atlantis inthis file is usually kept in the congregation legal folder, and most jehovah's witnesses have never seen it or even know that it was ever published.. .. .
1980 insurance manual for congregations of jehovah's witnesses.--------------------------------------------------------who is covered by the society's insurance arrangement (see page 12).the society's arrangement insures your congregation if you regularly meet in a kingdom hall which has one of the following:.1. an insurance account with the society.2.
a loan from the society.3.
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Chaserious
It seems that at this time, the insurance was pooled coverage with an outside insurance company. I note that at the time, they didn't have a beef with publishers suing the insurance company (really suing the congregation and having the insurance cover it) for injuries. Note part V "Accidents", section C, on page 35, which says:
" it is not wrong Scripturally either to make a claim on the congregation's insurance or to sue it because of an accident (see Watchtower, November 15, 1973, p. 704, par. 1)"
Also in the same section: " If someone claims injury or damage, do not hesitate to tell him that the con gregation does carry insurance which may apply."
However, now that the society itself administers the insurance, they have changed their tune about publishers suing the congregation for injuries and having the insurance cover it, since it comes right of of Watchtower's pocket now. Note 12/22/97 BOE under "Accidents at Kingdom Halls or Assembly Halls:
"7. If the injured party has personal insurance, encourage him to present his medical expenses to his insurance program. Kindly explain that the Kingdom Hall Assistance Arrangement is based on donated funds and that all expenses incurred are borne by the congregations.
8. Report the accident by phone if there is any threat or mention of legal action. Generally this would only occur if a worldly person happened to injure himself on your property. If this should happen, please obtain his name and address as well as the names and addresses of any witnesses, along with a full description of the incident."
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Watchtower Insurance - conflict of interest ?
by Pterist ini open this thread as a new topic after receiving an update from atlantis on wbts insurance coverage.. while we are on the subject of insurance , does anyone know if the org.
takes out life insurance on its members ?
recently, it was exposed that walmart and a lot of businesses take out a "special" life insurance on their employees.
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Chaserious
A lot of businesses take out life insurance on high level managers and executives. I disagree that it is not known that the payouts go to the company and not to the employee's family. Lots of people know about this and it's a common practice. I don't have a problem with it. If a Vice-President of Wal-mart dies, it might be difficult to find someone else capable of doing the same job and expensive to train the new person. Also if the things this person was in charge of suffer for a while until someone new gets up to speed, the company could lose profits. If it was somebody that was uniqiuely good at what he did, the business might never be the same (think of someone like Steve Jobs). I don't have a problem with companies taking out insurance to protect themselves against something like that. It's not like you taking out insurance on your neighbor's house because if the employee is important enough there would be a loss to the company.
I think that the issue with Wal-mart was that they were taking out policies on janitors and regular employees, which I do think is a problem, in that they were trying to exploit tax loopholes and profit from the deaths of low-level employees. I am sure the WTS could not take out life insurance policies on regular members. Whether they take out insurance on HQ people is a good question. It's probably hypocritical on some level but even if they did this it would be pretty mild on the spectrum of WTS hypocrisy.
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"Witness Patients Often Do Better" - Erm......
by snare&racket intook a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
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Chaserious
That story is about saving the life of a child, not taking it.
Lol... isn't that what the WTS and every JW parent would say about blood, too?
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A "Chernobyl" for the Watchtower - could it happen?
by sir82 inthere is an article here which posits that the collapse of the soviet union can be directly traced back to the chernobyl explosion.
it's a pretty compelling piece:.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/nuclear_power/2013/01/chernobyl_and_the_fall_of_the_soviet_union_gorbachev_s_glasnost_allowed.html.
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Chaserious
But they don't own any nuclear reactors.
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BADGES COMING TO LOCAL KINGDOM HALLS, FINALLY RESPECT I DESERVE!
by AuntConnie inbadges are coming to distinguish real christian effort!
1. badges: i want my badge to be different from the other brothers and sisters badges coming!
the society has realized they can't live without us and now they are giving us a little something extra ,it's going to be a blast!
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Chaserious
All downhill from here. Predicting this thread only gets 3 pages of comments, not the heady 7 or 8 you have gotten used to.
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Landlord business
by hoser inonce you spend your property it is spent forever.
this is what the wts is doing by selling out of brooklyn.
would it not make a lot more financial sense to become landlords in one of the hottest rental markets in the world?.
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Chaserious
If it would be like that for worldly tenants, imagine what it would be for witlesses.
By all accounts they were good landlords to the "worldly" tenants in the Bossert hotel. Didn't preach to them, let them put up holiday decorations on their apartments doors, maintained it well, etc. Probably not looking for any more bad PR in Brooklyn.
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Donation sent too Watch Tower Society but never goes out.
by jam ina few questions concerning wt accounts.. 1) who have control over the wt funds?.
2) if one of the gb members for example , schedule to.
give a talk in a foreign country, who determine how much money.
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Chaserious
I don't know the answer to these, and I hope to check back and see if anyone does. But I lol'd at this one:
Any outside agency have oversight of WT holdings?
Can't imagine this. They love their secrecy. Also, I imagine that even if someone other than the GB has to approve the checks, (and I would think this is the case ever since the change where the GB are no longer corporate officers) the culture is not one where anyone feels free to say 'no' to the GB. Other than the lawyers. They probably would say no if it's something that could cause a legal problem.
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My Mother Passed
by Roberta804 inthank you for all of your support durning the two difficult weeks my mother was on her death bed.
last night at 10:30pm she breath her last with my sister and i by her side.
this is a real end of an era for me as i have known little these past 8 years other than taking care of my parents.
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Chaserious
So sorry to hear about this. It's good that her daughters were by her side. All the best as your family copes with the loss.
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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.
by okage ini feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .
to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.
but that's not our goal.
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Chaserious
Are there not class actions against the RC church because of molestations etc., on the grounds of emotional harm done the victims?
Yes, but they are all for the same type of harm (sexual abuse), not various practices that people disagree with. Further, sexual abuse is obviously a tort with recognized damages remedies. Sexual abuse is not part of the theology of any established religion, unlike shunning. Even if you want to limit your hypothetical lawsuit to shunning victims, shunning is legal and sexual abuse is not. It's pretty simple.
the harm is not caused by doctrine
Of course the harm is caused by the doctrine. Strictly enforcing the policy (or coercion, as you call it) is all part of the doctrine, whether you agree with the doctrine or not. Personally I think the shunning policy is disgusting, but you even used the term "loved ones" in your response. Do you really think the government should be telling people who they have to love and be close with? I don't, although you are free to disagree.
thousands of people have already suffered harm from the WT's intentional interference in their familial love
You need more than just harm to have a case. If someone walks past you on the street and mockingly calls you ugly, you might suffer emotional harm, but you have no legal cause of action. If a man seduces a married woman and causes her to leave her family for him, the family certainly suffers harm, but there is no legal recourse against the seducer in almost every jurisdiction. And these are examples that don't even have the additional obstacle of freedom of religion to overcome.
Please , somebody tell me this isn't so!
It would be nice if it wasn't so, but not only is this the law, but here is an example of it actually happening within the past year:
Since you said you are interested in what Band on the Run thinks, she has posted in other threads not only only that shunning is protected conduct, but that she agrees with the right to associate with whoever you want. You can probably find such comments with a search. I know you have good intentions. Not trying to give you a hard time, gone for good. Just observing that the way to fight the WTS is not with shunning lawsuits. At least not in the foreseeable future.