Posts by Chaserious

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JW businessman's email about the UN and false religion

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i was shown a hard copy of an email from a purported jw businessman who claimed he had contact with some un officials as part of his 'business'.

in conversation, he claimed that he blurted out and asked them when they were going to clamp down on religion as foretold in jw prophecy.

according to the account, the un official acted startled, and asked 'how do you know?'.

Chaserious

I think it was a smurf doll that came to life and got the UN to admit they were planning the demise of all religion.

Just kidding.. I heard some variation of this story too. I love how no JW "experiences" are ever capable of being verified.

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Not on jw.org, sister killed in a train crash which some investigators believe to have been a suicide!

by OneDayillBeFree in

it has been confirmed by some brothers on facebook that a 42 year old sister died today around 5pm when her suv got on the train tracks while the amtrak was crossing in the state of nc.

it came up on the news today although they never mentioned that she was one of jehovah's witnesses.

so where was jehovah's holy spirit in this matter?

Chaserious

Very sad... it also appears this woman was charged with embezzlement last year. I wonder if that had something to do with this tragedy?

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/07/2662343/dot-to-investigate-railroad-crossing.html

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Candace Conti Reminder: WTS Appellate Brief Due Tomorrow

by DNCall in

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that is unless the parties stipulate to another continuance.

hopefully they'll file it and we can see their arguments.

the documents will not be available online.

Probably didn't miss a deadline. I'm not too familiar with the CA courts, but the way the federal courts work is that you can submit the brief electronically up to midnight the day it's due. The court staff then won't enter it until the next day (and it's still about 7 AM in California so I'm sure they aren't in yet).

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What happens when a legally married....?

by sosoconfused in

lesbian couple that has a child decides that they want to be one of jehovahs witnesses?

really think about this for a second.. what will they do then.. option 1: will they tell them that they have to get a divorce and ignore the scriptural counsel of jehovah hating a divorcing?

will they say that it was never valid anyway in the eyes of jehovah?

Chaserious

Ohh... I bet Sam Herd has a wonderful lesbian porn collection to be that vehement on the subject.

It is important to know one's enemies, after all...

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What happens when a legally married....?

by sosoconfused in

lesbian couple that has a child decides that they want to be one of jehovahs witnesses?

really think about this for a second.. what will they do then.. option 1: will they tell them that they have to get a divorce and ignore the scriptural counsel of jehovah hating a divorcing?

will they say that it was never valid anyway in the eyes of jehovah?

Chaserious

Yes, I know they would say something along those lines, Quendi. I was just wondering what family they would say the child belongs to if s/he had been raised by both mothers since birth. I mean, isn't every child part of a family, even if it's a single-parent family? It seems quite obvious that whatever the semantics, they are breaking up the family. I guess they would view it no differently than a man and woman living together who had children, who were not "scripturally free" to remarry. It's probably no more than an academic question anyway. I really doubt there are many homosexual people who have taken their relationship to the point of getting legally married that covert to JW (or any fundie, anti-gay church for that matter).

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I finally told my parents

by nolongerconfused in

so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

Chaserious

Awesome to hear that, nolongerconfused! It took a lot of courage to go to your parents with this, not knowing how they would respond. How active are they?

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What happens when a legally married....?

by sosoconfused in

lesbian couple that has a child decides that they want to be one of jehovahs witnesses?

really think about this for a second.. what will they do then.. option 1: will they tell them that they have to get a divorce and ignore the scriptural counsel of jehovah hating a divorcing?

will they say that it was never valid anyway in the eyes of jehovah?

Chaserious

I think the more interesting question would be what would happen if just one spouse wanted to be a witness and the other didn't. Certainly the interested spouse wouldn't be allowed to be an unbaptized publisher or get baptized unless they left their legal spouse. So much for JWs allegedly not breaking up families.

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I Keep Hearing About Conti's? What's the 411?

by slipnslidemaster in

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there was a conti that was a do in my circuit a few years ago.

who are the conti's that everyone is talking about?

?.

Chaserious

What was yout DO Conti's first name? We had a CO with that name (actually spelled "Conte", but pronounced the same as "Conti") a while back but I can't remember his first name. Actually he was pretty old and this was 15 years ago so I wonder if he's still around.

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Not sure what to do next

by magotan in

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i'm 19, and i'm still currently a jw.

i guess i'm a born-in, or whatever you guys call it.

i've had some serious issues with the faith at the moment, and sexuality is a huge part.

Chaserious

LOL at nowwhat... people who hate gays love to use 1COR6:9 as a crutch to justify their hatred. People like him used to use the bible to justify slavery until the mid 19th century. It was official teaching of many American churches. After all, 1 Tim 6:1 says "all who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered."

They freely admit that some scriptures are given more weight than others... you know, the golden rule is more important than the one about slavery and women covering their heads in church, but the one about homosexuality is of course in the former group. Young people like us, magotan, will probably live to see the day when this nonsense is just a curiosity of history.

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The story of Bo Juel Jensen - the man behind the Anti-Watchtower media campaign in Norway

by cedars in

hi guys.

richard e. kelly has kindly contributed a great article to jwsurvey.org on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/bo-juel-jensen-could-he-be-watchtowers-worst-nightmare.

richard tells the story of bo juel jensen, an ex-witness who has been doing marvellous work in raising awareness of watchtower child abuse mishandling in norway.. as with most child abuse victims, bo's story is a disturbing one.

Chaserious

@ Weana: Your basic premise is true, but even in the legal systems you are describing, the Prosecutor will have to drop a case if the witnesses refuse to testify and there is no other corroborating evidence. In the U.S., for example, a witness can be made to testify but prosecutors are generally reluctant to force sexual assault victims to testify against their will. Usually parental permission is needed in order for a child to testify. While I don't know all of the details of Bo's case, it might well be that it wasn't so much that the parents "dropped the charges" as much as they told the police/prosecution that they were not going to allow their child to testify.