Yes, I would agree that this only applies to Bethel workers. Also, as the article says, one of the reasons that they decided to settle might have been because they were afraid of the precedent that trying the case might set for future cases. So it's not even certain that they are liable under an agency theory.
Chaserious
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Is $1.55 Million Really Watchtower's 'Largest Cash Settlement In History?'
by Scott77 inonly reposting for those who did not read it.. .
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Should The Governing Body Seek Psychiatric Help For Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
by frankiespeakin inhttp://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36t.htm.
narcissistic patients try to sustain an image of perfection and personal invincibility for themselves and attempt to project that impression to others as well.
physical illness may shatter this illusion, and a patient may lose the feeling of safety inherent in a cohesive sense of self.
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Chaserious
I get this, but haven't there been about 5 other threads on this exact topic in the past month or so?
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Elders need to see things from Jehovah's perspective in a child molestation case
by suavojr inwhile preaching this past saturday 3-16-13 the following conversation took place in my car with an elder from my cong, my wife, a retired sister and myself.. me: addressing my wife i asked her: do you know how is brother (moron) that crashed his car into a fire station while drunk?
wife: don't know.
last thing i heard was that he was in a critical condition.at this point the elder chimes in.. elder: poor guy!
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Chaserious
I am confused since it seems like there are two issues here. The elder's first question seemed to be about whether repentance should prevent DF'ing of a child molester. But then it seems like the real discussion was about what to do when there is arguably not enough proof of whether the abuse took place.
It seems obvious that the answer to the second question should be to alert the authorities and let them do a real investigation and warn the accused not to be in the presence of any children in the meantime.
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Is this true? Do the elders really do it like this?
by Julia Orwell ini put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.
now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.
she replied, among other things,with this:.
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Chaserious
Of course it can be one error and you're out. Or one doctrine you disagree with and you're out. If you're Catholic and disagree with the contraception ban, you can disregard it at your own risk (of eternal damnation, I suppose), but you don't have to choose between that and all of your friends and family. But if you disagree with the blood ban and accept a blood transfusion, or even tell others that it's okay to do so, you will be expelled. If they can establish that you took blood, they won't even hold a JC to see if you really want to leave. It's considered an automatic disassociation. Same with joining the military. A friend of mine from growing up kind of faded, but then joined the military, and he was DF'd (technically DA'd, but really what's the difference) without a judicial committee.
Technically it was his choice to join the military, but the choice really was between blindly obeying every rule and doctrine or having your family and friends.
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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Chaserious
Sad story... hopefully they will be okay. There are a lot of cases of pitbulls who have no violent history and then commit a vicious attack.
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My wife buys "50 shades of grey??? How shes changed since being inactive!!
by Witness 007 inso this morning we flirt and i tell her what a "dirty girl" she is for buying those books...but i was thinking this from a girl who broke a frying pan on my car years ago because i didnt want to go to the meetings.
slowly i wore down that rock that she is with little facts and qoutes...i would not have stayed with her if she remained the fanatic witness she was....also she now swears like a sailor...i like that..
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Chaserious
My wife read all 3 of the Fifty Shades books, but she never read the Watchtower or Awake even when we were in. I read a couple of chapters and wasn't too impressed.
I wouldn't be shocked if some "in" JWs even read it on the sneak. Especially now that you can read on your ipad or Kindle and don't have to buy a bound book. I mean, the ban on porn doesn't mean all the elders and bethelites weren't watching porn on their computers. Why wouldn't the sisters be reading lady porn on their tablets? lol
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Is $1.55 Million Really Watchtower's 'Largest Cash Settlement In History?'
by Scott77 inonly reposting for those who did not read it.. .
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Chaserious
Well, it was 10 years ago, so even if it was the largest then it probably isn't now.
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A double life
by raindrops ini am usually a lurker here.
i was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago.
my relationship with my family has never been the same.
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Chaserious
You could always call their bluff now that they have met their granddaughter and started thinking about the possibility that she is going to be in their life. If you stop going now and give it a month or two maybe they won't want to shun their grandchild too. You could tell them something like you can't find any scriptural justification for people treating other people like pariahs in a house of worship and judicial committees and all of the other nonsense related to DF'ing. I mean, they couldn't openly associate with you and stay in, but maybe they would do it quietly. I don't know if that would be enough for you. If it doesn't work, you could always go back to trying to get reinstated in a couple of months.
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Legal resources for custody battle
by baltar447 inhey jwn.. i have some good friends that are trying to get custody of their wife's daughter from the kid's grandmother who is a jw.
unfortunately she's loaded and they have little means to fight a custody battle.
is there any legal resources that they can reach out to or any attorneys that work on the side of fighting against jws?.
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Chaserious
Have the parental rights been terminated? Has there already been a custody determination by a court in favor of the grandparent? Based on the information you provided, I suspect that the religion angle may not the best thing to focus on.
If rights have not been terminated and this is an original proceeding, there is a presumption that it's in the best interest of child for the natural parent to have custody. The parent should only have to prove that she herself is fit, not that the grandparent is unfit because of her religion or any other reason.
But in addition to what has been provided, if the religion card is going to be played and the attorney is not familiar with these types of cases, I suggest reading and/or have the parents' attorney read Dealing with Jehovah's Witness Custody Cases by Jerry Bergman. Summary is here. The attorney will have the credentials needed to obtain the full article. Or if you PM me an e-mail address, I can send it to you.
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Legal resources for custody battle
by baltar447 inhey jwn.. i have some good friends that are trying to get custody of their wife's daughter from the kid's grandmother who is a jw.
unfortunately she's loaded and they have little means to fight a custody battle.
is there any legal resources that they can reach out to or any attorneys that work on the side of fighting against jws?.
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Chaserious
If the child's grandmother has custody and the parents don't, it sounds like there might be some other piece of the puzzle other than religion at play?