Posts by Heartofaboy

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Inappropriate - Sick - WT & Awake articles over the years.

by Essan in

i remember as a kid reading an article - not sure if watchtower or awake - which terrified the life out of me!

i remember thinking at the time "ok, this may be true, but i'm just a kid, i shouldn't be reading this!".

some of the details remain imprinted on my mind decades later.

Heartofaboy

What a relief it is to finally realise I wasn't the only one to feel so totally worthless knowing I would not be able to endure such despicable, inhumane treatment.

As a child hearing these reports of persecution always troubled me, I was told 'You think too much, it probably wont even happen to you'

It troubled me because I just couldn't (still can't) see the point of god 'allowing' torture to happen, monitoring it to see that the torture 'will not go beyond what you can bear' before he kicks in.

You see my earthly father would've done all he could to prevent his child being tortured in the first place, if he had just sat there allowing bicycle spokes to be push through my legs, my limbs encircled by cuts so I could prove my loyalty to him I would have to question his character.

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When men were made Elders, did you notice their personality change?

by carvin in

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i thought about this after reading flippers thread about how elders are appointed.

great thread by the way.. i can recall many times when guys were made elders, and sometimes even made ms that their personility would change almost over night.

i knew many nice, kind, elders and ms but many especially newly appionted ones would be, at times, just difficult to be around.

Heartofaboy

ABSOLUTELY they change!!

I've seen men change from being approachable MS's to unapproachable 'far too busy' elders over & over again.

And that's just the problem the BORG keeps them so busy they have no time to be Christ like.

Some become so un-Christ like that they become harsh & judgmental using the meetings to tear the audience down rather than build up. You know the sort of thing, " Oh no-one knows the answer heh? If you had pre-studied for the meeting brothers every hand should be up" or " How can you call yourselves Jehovah's Witnesses's if you don't WITNESS!!!"

Some men should NEVER be elders it is beyond their capability & the congregation suffers all the time they are in authority...........I've seen it happen in my congregation.

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Inappropriate - Sick - WT & Awake articles over the years.

by Essan in

i remember as a kid reading an article - not sure if watchtower or awake - which terrified the life out of me!

i remember thinking at the time "ok, this may be true, but i'm just a kid, i shouldn't be reading this!".

some of the details remain imprinted on my mind decades later.

Heartofaboy

I remember thinking as a child I could never endure the horrendous brutality described in the WT literature.

They mentioned an experience in one article that after the first vicious blows were dealt to a Malawian brother he miraculously didn't feel the rest of the beating.

The WT logic being, because the brother had proven himself faithful to the Watchtower God, God thought 'I'll numb his body to the rest of the beating'.

You see rather than use his great power to prevent the beating take place God let the brother continue to be beaten to a pulp, but numbed him.

I continue to 'wonder' at God's 'awsome' logic.

Hoab

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Can jehovah Witness 14 year old male, be gay??

by Loz&Coz in

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Heartofaboy

I knew I wasn't like other boys even before I went to school.

I didn't know what it was at the time, but I just couldn't join in the rough & tumble of the boy gangs preferring to join in the girls games.................can't understand why my parents didn't pick up on it, but then in the 1950's there wasn't even the word 'gay' & homosexuality was hardly ever mentioned.

Growing up a gay person is very distressful, no one would ever choose it & growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness multiplies the distress a 100 times.

Be kind to your friend, do not alienate him, he's is having the hardest fight of his life so far. Just maybe one day, when he cannot cope with the pressure any longer he will feel able to trust you , to confide in you.

By not rejecting him you just might be a life saver.

Hoab

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Your favorite JW'isms...."Brother leave it in Jehovah's hands" Post yours.

by UnConfused in

bring back the memories.

Heartofaboy

In the mid 1960's & early 1970's the JW'isms were

This is my armageddon car.

This is the last time I'll have to paint the house before armageddon.

You'll never have to go to school ( the kid is now a grandparent )

You'll never need to study for a career in this system of things

There'll be so many opportunities for you young men in the New World

Make pioneering your goal ( do everything the WBTS tells you )

Do your all for Jehovah( do everything the WBTS tells you )

Put the kingdom first ( do everything the WBTS tells you )

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Your favorite JW'isms...."Brother leave it in Jehovah's hands" Post yours.

by UnConfused in

bring back the memories.

Heartofaboy

Repetition for emphasis. :)

Remember 3 times for EMPHASIS!

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Birthdays and Jehovah

by I quit! in

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my birthday is coming up next week.

ever since leaving the watchtower i aways do something on or round that day with my sister.

we usually go to lunch and do something like see a movie, play golf, or spend the day at the beach together.

Heartofaboy

Hi Quillsky,

You have helped me decide.

It was whether to attend or not.............it's the guilt thing about doing something that for the past 50 years I've been told is wrong......what will Jehovah think............what would Jesus say if he walked in the room & saw me celebrating a B-I-R-T-H-D-A-Y!

You know all the hair splitting you seem to have to do as a JW

However I have decided I am going!!

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Birthdays and Jehovah

by I quit! in

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my birthday is coming up next week.

ever since leaving the watchtower i aways do something on or round that day with my sister.

we usually go to lunch and do something like see a movie, play golf, or spend the day at the beach together.

Heartofaboy

I been invited to a work colleagues 40th birthday party.

I'm very fond of her & I'm one of only two people to have been invited from my office.

I've never been to a birthday party before & I'm getting a bit uptight about what to do.

I would like to go but the JW indoctrination regarding birthdays is troubling me.

Hoab

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JW C@fe at it again over Sheri Sheppard and 1975

by James_Slash in

http://www.facebook.com/#!/posted.php?id=183520638977&share_id=135978736436137&comments=1#s135978736436137.

sorry, i can't actually post the link...no idea how to do it.. some of the comments on there are crazy.

the 1975 debacle has been swept under the carpet saying that the watchtower never intimated that the end would come then.

Heartofaboy

EXACTLY moshe.

I was there in the late '60's, I know what happened.

I can't fool myself into thinking it didn't.

The GB had J's holy spirit, they told us this stuff, what to expect etc & we had to believe them or be shunned.

The pressure was on.

When the 'Truth' book was released a special talk was given at the assembly demonstrating how to curtail bible studies at 6 months for anyone that had not reached the step of baptism.

The reason??

THE END WAS SO CLOSE, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO WASTE TIME ON THEM!

How long ago was that?

When '75 passed over us uneventfully, the 6 month deadline was soon dropped.

Doesn't that say something as to what the org was telling us rank & file back then?

Hoab

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People Who Refuse to Tip at Restaurants are Embarrassing!

by White Dove in

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egg and i were treated out to dinner three times last weekend by out of state visiting relatives.

just found out last night that they don't believe in tipping, at all!

we suggested the places to eat and frequent those places ourselves.

Heartofaboy

Isn't there a minimum wage in America?

These are the rates in the UK:

From October 2010, National Minimum Wage rates will increase from:

£5.80 to £5.93 an hour for workers aged 21 and over
£4.83 to £4.92 an hour for workers aged 18 to 20
£3.57 to £3.64 an hour for workers aged 16 to 17

I always tip for good service even though it isn't seen quite as customary as in the USA as the UK minimum wage doesn't give you a great standard on living.